Monday, August 31, 2009

America's First 9/11 Mountain Meadows Massacre September 11, 1857

Mountain Meadows Massacre Horror Continues 150 Years Later

As we approach September 11th, Americans everywhere will reflect on the tragic event of that day in 2001; however, we had more than one terrible tragedy that happened on September 11th. As a nation, we are all aware of the horror of 9/11/2001; but few are aware of the horror of the First September 11th. Known as the Mountain Meadows Massacre, this horrific event happened September 11, 1857. On that tragic September day, 120 innocent men, women, and children were brutally murdered by as many as 100 Mormon men under direct orders from their Priesthood leadership.

A very rich wagon train from Arkansas consisting of about 140 people, 1,000 head of cattle, 200 horses, 40 wagons and thousands of dollars in gold was attacked, looted and left with but 17 survivors, all 7 years of age or less. Historian Will Bagley has made the historical connection through the diary of Dimmick Huntington, Indian Interpreter and brother-in-law of Brigham Young, that Brother Brigham ordered the attack by telling the Indian Chiefs they could have the cattle if they would attack the train. The Indians did attack the wagon train on September 6th; however, the seasoned pioneers put up a staunch fight after being surprised and suffering some casualties.

The Indians withdrew under the superior firepower of the pioneers. With the Indians failing to do their part, the Mormon leaders met in Parowan and came up with a heinous plot. Under the direction of Stake President Isaac Haight, and Bishop William Dame the Commander of the Iron County Militia (a remnant of the Nauvoo Legion), Bishop John D. Lee rode into the siege encampment of the pioneers with a white truce flag. He told the pioneers that the Indians had agreed to allow the Mormons to rescue the pioneers and take them to safety if they would lay down their arms. Believing the Mormons to be their deliverers, they did. The wounded and children seven years of age and under were put into two separate wagons; the children’s wagon was driven by Samuel McMurdy, 1st Counselor in the Cedar Ward. The women and remaining children were then led out first. With a quarter mile spacing between them, the unarmed men were then led out escorted with an armed Mormon guard. Once clear of the encampment and out in the open, Nauvoo Legion Maj. John Higbee, 1st Counselor to Stake President Haight, gave the order: “Halt, do your duty.” The Mormon escort guards turned and gunned down at point blank range the men. At the sound of gunfire, Indians and Saints disguised as Indians came from ambush positions and clubbed, stabbed, and shot to death the women and children. The wounded in the wagon were shot at point blank range.

Only the seventeen children were spared because “they were too young to tell the tale,” and Mormon Doctrine states there is no forgiveness for the shedding of innocent blood (children under the age of eight). The children were doled out to Mormon homes and two years later when they were recovered by the Indian Agent, Forney, the Mormon Church billed the Federal Government for room and board. Authorization was made for payment to those who killed their parents in the sum of $2,961.77. Brevet Major Carleton, of the First Dragoons, who first found the killing field in Mountain Meadows, said of this payment: “Has there ever been an act which at all equaled this in devilish hardihood, in more than devilish effrontery? Never, but one: and even then the price was but “30 pieces of silver.”” (Mountain Meadows Massacre, Special Report, 57th Congress 1st Session, House of Representatives, Document No. 605).

The horror of this event lives on today. The Mormon Church refuses to acknowledge any complicity in the wretched event. What is even worse, they have purchased all the land in the area of the killings. Four mass graves still hold the remains of these innocent people. The descendants have tried for years to be granted access to these mass graves to properly honor and bury their dead; HOWEVER, THE MORMON CHURCH REFUSES TO ALLOW THEM THIS SIMPLE ACT OF DECENCY.

How is this possible in 2007? There is no question that the Mormon Priesthood ordered this massacre, and the Mormon Church will not allow the families to properly bury their dead. The descendants of these people petitioned the Mormon Church in 1999 for Federal Stewardship of this area so that they could access the graves and properly honor their dead. They were refused. In the Spring of 2007 another request was made; again denial. Mormon Prophet, Gordon B. Hinckley said, “it’s not in the best interests of the church to allow federal stewardship in the meadows.” Phil Bolinger, President of the Mountain Meadows Monument Foundation, meeting with Mormon representative, Marlin Jensen on April 25th said, “It’s not right for the people who had complicity to the killings to be the grave owner.” He followed up with a sage question, “I asked him, ‘How do you think the Kennedy family would feel if the Lee Harvey Oswald family had control of the Kennedy tomb?”

I thought the Mormon Church was all about families. I guess they’re not if they killed them! This most despicable act in American history lives on by the Mormon Church thumbing its nose at the descendants of those its Priesthood killed.

I(Rocky)interviewed four of the descendants of this massacre on our TV show “Truth Outreach.” The first of three programs will air on WTJR Ch 16 (Mon 8:30 pm, Tues 1:30 pm, Wed 10:00 pm) from Quincy, the week of August 19th; the second program the week of August 26th; the third the week of September 2nd. These programs were hard to film—they’ll be hard to watch; this is a horrid tale that needs to be told.

If you want to right one of the WORST WRONGS in American history, we are collecting signatures on petitions demanding the Mormon Church to turn this killing field over to the Federal Government so the families can properly inter their dead. Only the angry outcry of the American public will force the Mormon Church to do the right thing. Tell everyone you know about this!

If you wish to write a letter demanding release of Mountain Meadows, send it to:

Marlin Jensen, LDS CHURCH, 35 North West Temple St.,Salt Lake City, UT 84150. You may call and complain to the LDS Church: Tom Owen 801-240-1000. Call Senator Durbin: 202-224-2152; Representative Hare: 202-225-5905. Get involved, you can make a difference to right this ugly wrong!!

We as missionaries at Mormon Missions Midwest Outreach plan on attending the 150th Remembrance of the Return of the Children of the Mountain Meadows Massacre in Carrollton, Arkansas, September 18th and 19th. Our first Missions trip since July 08. Please keep us in your prayers, as we travel to Arkansas and back to Texas.


  1. Did this really happen and why say it was the church when it was indians.

  2. Did what really happen the Massacre of the 120 unarmed innocent men, women and children over the age of 8 on the Fancer Wagon Train September 11, 1857 by members of the LDS Church? Or the return two years later of 17 surviving children hidden in LDS homes by members of the LDS Church and the murders of their families?

  3. the 17 children, I thought everyone was killed. We were told the church had nothing to do with this event.

  4. Where is the Evidence the Church were involved?

  5. I searched the Church Website and nothing whatsoever there.

  6. Read Chapter 9 of my book, "When Salt Lake City Calls" for a quick read with full documentation about the Mormon Church involvement in Mountain Meadows Massacre. If you want an in depth study, read "Blood of the Prophets" by Will Bagley. There is no question that the attack and ultimate gruesome murder of the victims of the wagon train was conducted by Mormons at the direction of the Mormon Church leadership.

  7. Yes, were would I find this book and why is there nothing in Church History.

  8. What you are doing is an abomination in God's eyes.

  9. NO, what Young did was an ABOMINATION:

    May 25, 1861: While on a trip to the southern settlements with Brigham Young, we visited the Mountain Meadow Monument put up at the burial place of 120 persons killed by Indians in 1857. The pile of stone was about 12 feet high, but beginning to tumble down. A wooden cross was placed on top with the following words: Vengeance is mine and I will repay saith the Lord. President Young said it should be VENGEANCE IS MINE AND I HAVE TAKEN A LITTLE. (Wilford Woodruff Journals)

    Young had the monument torn down. He was a despot and a murderer, not a prophet of God.

  10. If the above quote is not a 'smoking gun', I don't know what is._johnny

  11. grindael you said what is true the Indians killed the 120 people not the Church. This couple the Hulse's like to bash the Church on everything. I wonder what they will come up with during General Conference.

  12. The above quote in my mind shows Young's guilt and complicity in the murders.

  13. Many Mormons, (not all) today justify the massacre by pointing to the alleged atrocities against Mormons committed by non-Mormons in Missouri and Illinois . Read the history of the

    The following list of participants has been gleaned from writings of Anna Jean Backus, R.N. Baskin, Will Bagley, Juanita Brooks, Sally Denton, John D. Lee, J.R. Dunn, William Wise, William Secrest, Captain James Lynch and others. It continues to be validated by cross-referencing between recognized historians.
    Most historians agree that 50 to 60 Mormons were involved in the actual killing of the wagon train members. In his confessions, John D. Lee stated that there were 54 men directly involved in the massacre. The list of 52 participants in Lee's confessions must be given priority over others who wrote about it later on. Other testimony and research helps to validate Lee's list but much of the later research was corrupted by many years of lying, folklore, and misinformation. ‡ commissioned and non-com officers. ^ equals private rank.
    Arrest warrant – those individuals listed in Marshall Stokes arrest warrant
    Backus _ names gleaned from Anna Jean Backus' book “Mountain Meadows Witness.”
    Bagley- names gleaned from Will Bagley's book ‘Blood of the Prophets.”
    Baskin – names gleaned from R.N. Baskin's “Reminiscences of Early Utah.”
    Brooks – names gleaned from Juanita Brooks book “Mountain Meadows Massacre.”
    Denton – names gleaned from Sally Denton's book “American Massacre.”
    Dunn – names gleaned from J.R. Dunn's book “Massacres of the Mountains.”
    Gibbs – names from Josiah Gibb's book “Mountain Meadows Massacre.”
    Lee – names identified by John D. lee in his confessions “Mormonism Unvailed.”
    ^ Lynch - name from testimony of Captain James Lynch regarding Rebecca Dunlap's observations.
    Secrest – outlaw Charles Wilkins identified by William Secrest in “True West.”
    Shirts – names crosschecked with Iron County Militia roster for September 10, 1857 in “A Trial Furnace: Southern Utah's Iron Mission.”
    Wise – names gleaned from William Wise's book “Massacre at Mountain Meadows.”

  14. Cont...
    1.^ Adair, George Washington (Bagley) (Lee) (Arrest warrant) (Shirts)
    2.‡ Allen, Ira (Lee) (Wise) (Backus) (Shirts)
    3.‡ Arthur, Benjamin (Lee) (Wise) (Dunn) (Denton) (Shirts)
    4.‡ Bateman, William (Bagley) (Lee) (Gibbs) (Wise) (Backus) (Dunn) (Denton) (Shirts)
    5.^ Cartwright, Thomas (Lee) (Shirts)
    6.^ Clark, John W. (Bagley) (Lee) (Shirts)
    7.^ Clews, Joseph (Lee) (Shirts)
    8.‡ Curtis, Ezra (Lee) (Shirts)
    The LDS Church has knowingly sponsored, endorsed,
    and forever immortalized these
    butchers into history.
    9.^ Durfey, Jabez (Lee) (Shirts)
    10.^ Edwards, William (Bagley) (Lee) (Shirts)
    11.^ Freeman, Columbus (Lee) John (Shirts)
    12.‡ Hamblin, Oscar (Bagley) (Lee) (Shirts)
    13.^ Hatch, Ira (Bagley) (Wise) (Dunn) (Shirts)
    14.‡ Hawley, George (Bagley) (Lee) (Shirts)
    15.‡ Hawley, William (Bagley) (Lee) (Shirts) (refused to take part in shooting; he was tied to a wagon wheel during massacre by officers of Mormon Militia).
    16.‡ Harrison, Richard (Lee) (Wise) (Shirts)
    17.‡ Higbee, John(Bagley) (Lee) (Arrest warrant) (Gibbs) (Wise) (Backus) (Dunn) (Denton) (Shirts)
    18.^ Hopkins, Charles (Bagley) (Lee) (Baskin) (Wise) (Shirts)
    19.‡ Humphreys, John (Lee) (Shirts)
    20.‡ Hunter, George (Lee) (Backus) (Shirts)
    21.^ Jacobs, Swen (Lee) (Shirts)
    22.^ Jacobs, John (Lee) (Shirts)
    23.‡ Johnson, Nephi (Bagley) (Lee) (Wise) (Denton) (Shirts)
    24.^ Jukes/Jewkes, Samuel (Lee) (Arrest warrant) (Shirt)
    25.^ Klingensmith, Philip (Bagley) (Lee) (Arrest warrant) (Gibbs) (Baskin) (Wise) (Backus) (<Denton) (Shirts)
    26.^ Knight, Samuel (Bagley) (Lee) (Gibbs) (Backus) (Dunn) (Denton) (Shirts)
    27.^ Leavitt, Dudley (Bagley) (Lee) (Shirts)
    28.‡ Lee, John D. Lee (Bagley) (Lee) (Arrest warrant) (Baskin) (Wise) (Backus) (Dunn)
    29.‡ Loveridge, Alexander (Lee) (Shirts)
    30.‡ Matthews, James (Bagley) (Lee) (Shirts)
    31.^ Mangum, John (Lee) (Shirts)
    32.‡ McFarland, Daniel (Bagley) (Lee) (Gibbs) (Wise) (Denton) (Shirts)
    33.‡ McFarland, John Menzies (Bagley) (Lee) (Shirts)
    34.‡ McMurdy, Samuel (Bagley) (Lee) (Wise) (Backus) (Dunn) (Denton) (Shirts)
    35.‡ Pearce, Harrison (Bagley) (Lee) (Shirts)
    36.^ Pearce, James (Bagley) (Lee) (Shirts)
    37.‡ Pollock, Samuel (Bagley) (Lee) (Shirts)
    38.^ Shirts, Carl (Bagley) (Lee) (Wise) (Backus) (Shirts)
    39.^ Slade, William Sr. (Bagley) (Lee) (Backus) (Shirts)
    40.‡ Slade, William Jr. (Lee) (Shirts)
    41.^ Smith, Joseph (Lee) (Shirts)
    42.‡ Spencer, George (Bagley) (Dunn) (Shirts) (young schoolteacher whose conscience so bothered him that he wasted away and died from guilt over his involvement).
    43.‡ Stewart, William (Bagley) (Lee) (Gibbs) (Wise) (Dunn) (Denton) (Shirts)
    44.‡ Stratton, Anthony (Lee) (Shirts)
    45.‡ Taite, William (Lee) (Shirts)
    46.^ Tullis, David (Bagley)(Lynch) (Shirts)
    47.‡ Urie, John (Bagley) (Lee) (Backus ) (Shirts)
    48.‡ Weston, John (Lee)
    49.‡ White, Joel (Bagley) (Lee) (Baskin) (Wise) (Dunn) (Denton) (Shirts)
    50.^ White, Samuel (Brooks) (Lee) (Shirts)
    51.^ Wilden, Alexander (Lee) (Arrest warrant)
    52.^ Wilden, Elliott (Lee)
    53.‡ Wiley, Robert (Lee) (Wise) (Shirts)
    54.‡ Willis, John (Bagley) (Backus) (Shirts)
    55.^ Young, William Alma (Bagley) (Lee) (Shirts)Mormons in Missouri and Illinois , and come to you're own conclusions!

  15. Cont...
    BELOW is a list of Mormon participants in the Mountain Meadows Massacre that are not on our list but on the List of Those Accused of Being Present at the Massacre by the "The 1857 Iron County Militia Project" web site.
    57.‡ Edwards, Elezier
    60.^ Price, John
    61.^ Riggs, Williiam Sears
    62.‡ Thornton, Amos G
    63.^ Willden, John

    Additional SHOOTERS AND CLUBBERS from the "1857 Iron County Militia Project"
    Mormon Chain of Command as it relates to the Mountain Meadows Massacre of 1857
    LDS TRIAL LAWYER defends the Massacre
    Eyewitnesses and Sources to the Mountain Meadows Massacre, Planners, Schemers, Shakers, and Masterminds of Mountain Meadows Massacre:
    When assessing blame for the massacre, one must never forget the schemers and planners who lacked the guts to do their own dirty work (very much like Iraq) but eager to set forth plans for others. Those are:
    Brigham Young (Governor, Prophet & much, much more) (Bagley) (Denton)
    George A. Smith | Mountain Meadows Mormon Massacre Smoking Gun Sermon - 9/13/1857 | (second in command to Brigham, Apostle, instigated violence in Southern Utah,) (Bagley) (Wise) (Backus) (Denton)
    William Dame (gave “decoy and exterminate” order) (Bagley) (Gibbs) (Baskin) (Wise) (Dunn) (Denton) Isaac Haight (local firebrand who instigated massacre.) (Bagley) (Denton) (Arrest warrant) (Lee) (Gibbs) (Baskin) (Wise) (Backus) (Dunn )x Jacob Hamblin ( set up wagon train to camp at massacre site; falsely charged Government for getting children from Indians) (Lee) (Wise) (Backus)

    Other names associated with responsibility for massacre:
    Cook, Richard (Brooks)- there is not a clear reading on this man.
    Knight, ______ (Lee) Lee shows a second Knight in his list but unclear about involvement.
    Wells, Daniel - commander of Nauvoo Legion; Wells was heavily involved in the cover-up; controlled first Lee trial.
    Wilkins, Charles (Secrest) - an outlaw who was captured in California. True West Magazine writer William Secrest listed him as a participant in massacre.
    Wood, George B. (Bagley) - leader in militia; killed a Cedar City schoolteacher who showed too much interest in massacre; was sent to prison; was excommunicated at same time as Lee and Haight. It is not clear that he was at the actual massacre or whether he was excommunicated for murdering the woman or participating in massacre.
    The above list was researched and prepared by Dr. Burr Fancher.

  16. Isn't Burr Fancher related to one of the people murdered?

    You also stated :Wood, George B. (Bagley) - leader in militia; killed a Cedar City schoolteacher who showed too much interest in massacre; was sent to prison; was excommunicated at same time as Lee and Haight. It is not clear that he was at the actual massacre or whether he was excommunicated for murdering the woman or participating in massacre.

    If there is no proof to this statement why make it?

    Making that statement shows that you do not have the facts.

  17. Wow Anonymous - your comment with respect to a single statement on which you haven't done any research, yet from which, you can determine from that, that the volumes of research which without question show that the Mormon men under the direction of their Mormon Church leadership committed this heinous crime, is erroneous, is in itself erroneous.

    Your statement is really amazing considering that the Mormon Church itself acknowledges that the murders were Mormon men. They discount Brigham's direct involvement, but they do not discount the local Stake President or Bishops directing this horrific event. Perhaps you should read your own church produced documents before you embarrass yourself by disclosing your name and the fact that you know nothing of your own church history.


  18. I'd like to add a minor correction to the children who were killed - There were five children under the age of 7 that were killed; Sophronia Jones-4, Mary Lovinia Baker-7, America Jane Dunlap-7 Margaret Fancher-7 and John Mitchell was an infant. (There was an additional five children killed who were 8 and 9 years old; therefore, it is difficult to say that innocents were "deliberately" spared. Perhaps it was more a question of fate. thank you, catherine


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