Friday, April 11, 2014

An erie similarity between politics and ministry?


I've watched the political races over the years and commented to many people that a person had to be crazy to run for public office. After a season of political ads, I actually feel sorry for any candidate and their families considering the absolute abuse the candidates character is submitted to during the onslaught. Little did I know, over the 11 years since we entered ministry, the same scenario would be played out against Helen and me as well, over and over again.



I've found so called Christians to be more vicious than those who certainly are not saved;  quite a shocking finding on my part. As long as you agree with them, you're golden; however, the minute you disagree you become a pariah.


The "Internet" has also brought out the worst of human character in that the anonymity factor seems to have emboldened many to become quite vicious from the privacy of their living rooms. I dare say, if they were having a face to face conversation with the person they are deriding, the conversation would take a different course.


What's even more noticeable is the absence of true debate over an issue. Instead, debate has been replaced by ad hominem attacks. The inability to defend one's position with facts and reason, degenerates to attacking the other person. This is not only true in our experience with those of the Mormon faith, as we expose the false teachings of Mormonism, but it also has surfaced in a new entity, those who are trying to make their living off the "Internet" in Mormon Ministry. A large percentage of these new Mormon Ministries have been started by those who never were Mormons, but rather express a "heart for the Mormon people." Not to say that there are not those who are sincere and do a wonderful job at reaching out to those whom are lost in this false religion; however, we have been  very viciously attacked by some when my husband says: "Being an ex-Mormon, I don't see it that way, and here's why.



We have been "slandered, libeled, undergone copyright infringement, and certainly last but not least, experienced defamation of character." Not our words, the words of our attorney and friend who is chomping at the bit for us to turn him loose in the filing of an action against the offending parties.



Still asking myself: "Is this a result of my disagreeing with them? Is this deemed as a threat to their income?"



The New Testament shows us Jesus turned the other cheek, which we've been doing by not responding to the attacks for several years now. We also see Jesus driving the "money changers" out of the temple for their mockery. Pray we make the right decision here. The decision is coming soon.

Updated: June 10, 2013 
"Our Decision" -- It has not been an easy decision. We have prayed about this and others have joined us in praying.  We are left with no other choice, except to file charges against those involved posting untruths and false information about us both personally and about our ministry MMMO all over Facebook and the internet.
Fake MMMO page created by Art Haglund and posted on Rob Sivulka'sFacebook page.



Arthur Adam Haglund commenting on Rob Sivulka  Facebook page to create 'face' MMMO  page on Facebook
The two screenshots above were placed on Rob Sivulka aka Robert Michael Sivulka Facebook personal page in 2011 by Arthur Adam Haglund and left there until removed by Facebook for hate speech and harassment against Rocky and Helen Hulse president/founder of MMMO.
Arthur Adam Haglund original Facebook Profile Photo
Rob Sivulka did not remove them,  but left them posted on his profile.  If that weren't enough he encouraged other people to comment,  even though the comments were outrageous and untrue.  It continued on and grew more vicious.  Finally we did report them. Both of the screenshots along with all the comments were removed by Facebook, not by Rob.
Rob Sivulka with photo from 'Truth Outreach' TV show which clearly shows on Google photo is copyrighted.

Last month Rob Sivulka wrote an article,  filled with a number of untruths and slanted to make himself appear innocent of any wrong doing.  He attacked us personally using our ministry and our names personally on his website blogs and on Facebook.  He took a "Screenshot of our Ministry's TV show 'Truth Outreach' which is on our website and our YouTube channel used only for airing our TV show 'Truth Outreach'. 

Was this the fist time Rob Sivulka has taken photos of us off copyrighted websites? "NO"  The first one he admitted to doing when Rocky called and confronted him.  He had placed a close friend of ours website Frank Kirkman's Mountain Meadow Massacre site  right under our photo.  Rob, claimed during the phone call he got it off the website; however, when caught in his lie he remove the photo and the website under it.  The photo (in question)  is also on the back of Rocky's book 'When Salt Lake City Calls' the photo of us was taken at the CTN - station WTJR in Quincy, IL where our TV show 'Truth Outreach" was filmed.   After being caught placing two photos he had no permission to post,  Rob took a 3rd photo, which is still posted on his blogs and several other Facebook pages and Websites even though he has no permission to use it.
Rob Sivulka sending private messages to people commenting on the Facebook Fan Page for Mormon Mission Midwest Outreach trashing Rocky and Helen Hulse personally and MMMO.

Rob Sivulka sending private messages to people commenting on the Facebook Fan Page for Mormon Mission Midwest Outreach trashing Rocky and Helen Hulse personally and MMMO.
Here above is proof Rob Sivulka ,  himself is going down the Facebook fan page for our ministry Mormon Missions Midwest Outreach, Inc. sending his own blog to people who are commenting on MMMO's Facebook page and different topics.  We have chosen to post only two; however, there are more which could be revealed.
 Rob Sivulka showing the name of his website CCU blog and directing people on his personal Facebook page to it after it was removed by Facebook for hate speech and harassment.


          Rob Sivulka titled his website CCU blog:  "Hulses - Sowing- More- Discord-Among-the-Brethren"

However,  who is really  "Sowing Discord" among the Brethren with their behavior behaving like this and encouraging others to do likewise? 

Does this not shine a bright light on his walk with the Lord,  when he is willing  to stoop to sending out his own blog to those on our MMMO Facebook fan page?  

We would have never known Rob Sivulka was doing this if some of our friends had not contacted us and questioned why they were receiving these private messages from Rob.

Not only is Rob Sivulka sending out his blogs to others,  but one of his board members and a close friend of his is doing the same thing.   
Rob Sivulka outrageous lies were posted on the Facebook page Mormon & LDS Facts 

Rob Sivulka's website CCU blog "Hulses - Sowing- More- Discord-Among-the-Brethren" as you can read in the "Screenshot" is signed:  "the Facts Admin Team"

Who is the Facts Admin Team?  We know one is a close friend of  Rob Sivulka and also a member on his ministries board.  There are other names we know on the "Facts Admin Team", but chose not name them at this time.

Now,  let's set the record straight here.  After an Album of photos from the Capstone Conference in SLC April 2013 was posted showing what Rob Sivulka had done was placed on our Facebook Fan page only two people were commenting Russ Bales was the worse,  he simply would not stop.  He was asked a number of times to please stop.  Finally,  a statement was put up saying the topic was closed to comments and further comments would be deleted. 

We are completely frustrated by the untruths Rob wrote in his blog,  including accusing me of putting words in the mouth of a third person who is a friend of ours who commented once.  As a last resort, I did what I said I was going to do I deleted the photo, along with all the comments. 

Sadly, that gave Rob the opportunity to do what he always does draw attention to Rob Sivulka.  So along comes his attacking blog against us.  Was this the first one? No!  In May 2011 he wrote a blog,  attacking my husband for not agreeing with his friend, Aaron  yet we chose to remain silent and remained friends with him. 

What caused this "Discord"?  God knows and God sees everything and He knows who is behind all this gossip and who began and is continuing to spread lies.  Those behind this will one day give an answer to Him,  unless they repent.  We pray they do.

The question has now become --- Who is really Sowing-More-Discord-Among-the-Brethren and Why?

Perhaps, what has now come to light will answer the question. "Who is really Sowing-More Discord-Among-Brethren" and working with whom to do so?

In Rob's blog he states he only came to the "Capstone Conference" for a short time to get a book autographed and had to leave because people were coming to him home.  However,  was that the truth or is this the truth?
These photos clearly show people were already at his home during the conference,  not arriving at his home.  While at Capstone as he attempted to get out of Calvary Chapel quickly,  he invited others over to his home to join the party.  Again, why the lies?
During Capstone Conference on April 13, 2013
Group Watching Capstone Conference April 13, 2013
 
Wendy Jensen , Russ Bales and others having a meal during Capstone Conference April 13, 2013


Rob Sivulka posted another attack blog on his website CCU blog



When MMMO as a ministry thinks no person/persons can sink any lower in their attempts to drive us off Facebook, it happens again: This 'Fake' profile showed up on Monday: Porter Rockwell (Helen Ann Hulse) inserted underneath name .

Why was it created by whom and for what possible reason.

It is vile/vicious and vengeful. it is using the name of the well known LDS bodyguard Porter Rockwell (Helen Ann Hulse) inserted underneath.

Claims to be "Drama Queen" at Mormon Missions Midwest Outreach, in Cedar Park, Texas.

It as links to this page, shares from this page and posted a copy of Rocky's book 'When Salt Lake City Calls'. A link to Cedar Park, Texas which includes our address.

Whoever this turns out to be has added one more thing to the growing list of crimes which have already been committed. It does appear the workings of a very sick individual and a heart filled with evil. However, it is still a crime.

Another thing this "FAKE" profile enjoys doing is publishing this page and then unpubishing it -- Is that to keep from getting caught by Facebook or worse posting more trash leaves it up long enough it gets shared?

We aren't sure and to be honest we don't care. All they are showing is more of the hatred and bitterness inside of themselves.

It is apparent they didn't think it was up long enough to get caught, but it did. Now we have several screenshots for the attorneys. We are mailing off copies to the IRS for their folder tomorrow with this new information to added to the complaint on file.

We are and have been praying for these individuals. We are asking other believers in Jesus Christ to join us in our prayers. As the pain and hurt for telling someone the truth doesn't even compare to the pain and hurt that awaits for the unrepentant in the next life.
LDS bodyguard "Fake Profile Porter Rockwell" -  Using co-Founder of MMMO (Helen Ann Hulse) 
                                                                            
  LDS bodyguard "Fake Profile Porter Rockwell"- Using co-Founder of MMMO (Helen Ann Hulse)  




 John R Merilatt founder of Ephesians2Ministry profile photo which mocks Prophet Joseph Smith, Jr. founder of the LDS Church.

LDS bodyguard "Fake Profile Porter Rockwell" -  Using co-Founder of MMMO (Helen Ann Hulse)
 
 

The source of the above "Fake Profile Porter Rockwell  Using the co-Founder of MMMO (Helen Ann Hulse) has been located dated backed to Saturday May 14, 2011

Eph2Ministry blog below which changed and updated from what was written filled with untruths and vile comments.

Saturday, May 14, 2011
Helen Ann Hulse of Mormon Missions Midwest Outreach
As you get involved with apologetics and start to rub LDS apologists the wrong way you will soon get attention that you may or may not want. I myself could care less for if they are trying to go after me then that just means they will leave others alone. To me some of the comments you see are funny. They claim they are Christian however I will show you some of their comments and I will let you be the judge of that. 
The original title of this blog was "Oh the Child's Play" because I had the pleasure of noticing that a certain Anti-Christian (LDS apologists)or so I thought, who went under a fake facebook profile by the name of Porter Rockwell had become fascinated with me. For the privacy of others that were involved I will stick with their first names only but I'm sure most of you will know who they are. Because the person in question has decided to go after our ministry I decided to play right back by letting them notice my profile picture. Sure enough it didn't take long however their reaction went even further than I expected. This is exactly what you need to be aware of because this is the real reflection of their hearts of which God is no part of it. This is how the conversation started.
What makes the following conversation more interesting is the fact of who was behind Porter Rockwell.  That's right it is a so called "Christian" who runs a 501c3 ministry to Mormons.  I never could understand why an apologist would invest the time to try and research my past and it turns out they didn't.  Because I told this person over Skype the information who then in turn tried to use the information to make me look bad.  Who is this person you ask?  Helen Ann Hulse of Mormon Missions Midwest Outreach.  I have wanted to avoid bringing up issues like this because I was wanting her to leave the past in the past.  Now that she insist on trying to run peoples names through the mud I thought some of you might be interested in knowing the reality behind her so called "Christianity".  Feel free to view her confession and then please feel free to read how she hides behind the image of an LDS Danite.
Why is this important you may ask.  Well for years Helen has cried that her ministry has been under attack by a few people on facebook.  Funny thing is most of the information that was being fed to them if not ALL of it was being done so by Porter Rockwells profile.  Why the need for this?  Now that she has gotten rid of the Porter profile she has turned her attention to any and all people who have once helped her or stood up against her un-Christ like behavior. FYI When the following conversation took place I was under the impression I was talking with a Mormon.
John Merilatt - Porter. You seem intimidated by my pic.  I'm messing with you and I?  I live in Vancouver Washington.  Feel free to swing my way.  I'll have coffee waiting.
Porter - You are a joke. Me intimidated by you John? Now that's funny!
John Merilatt - I'm not saying you are. I am just going off your posting.
 Porter - You've never been Mormon so what the hell are you up too?
John Merilatt - You are correct.  I've never been.  Does that disqualify me from wanting to share the Gospel with the LDS?
Porter - keep your gospel
John Merilatt - I will.  And I will also share it with those who know hey can' live up to yours.  God Bless.
 Porter - use your wives face cream or make remover on the photo... you don't look good like a joker or clown.
John Merilatt - You are correct I don't.  However Joseph and his religion of many colors does. 
Now at this point since he knows she won't convince me of "the error of my ways" the normal thing you will see them do is go character assassination mode. They do this in order to get you upset or to get you frustrated to the point you may say something you normally wouldn't.
Porter - get some dental work done!
John Merilatt - Wow.  That is the best you can come up with?
John Merilatt - Please.  If you want to play children's games there are playgrounds for that.
Porter - you would know, right? 
John Merilatt - You are correct.  I have 2 little ones.  A part of being a parent.
Porter - Ha! 
John Merilatt - Le me know when you've matured a little.  I'll be around. 
At this point she tried to make the conversation even more personal. She heard my past and tried to use it against me as if I have something to hide. So for those of you who do care let me explain part of my past. After graduating college I got married and moved from a town I refer to as Hickville Oregon up to Vancouver Washington. I then entered the U.S. Air Force Reserves. Upon completion of training it was clear that my wife and I had a separation between us and I couldn't figure out why for some time. After some time passed the truth came out that while I was gone my wife was unfaithful. We attempted to work things out but divorce came and we moved on. This brings me to her next attack.
Porter - with your two wives?
John Merilatt - Your the one who's LDS.  You should know more about that than me.  It isn't in my doctrine.
Porter - I didn't divorce my wives, you did...
John Merilat - You act like I have something to hid.  Yes I am divorced.  And I had every Biblical reason to do so.  As if that is any of your business.
Now if this is not enough here are some other comments made on Porters page.
Greg - I would like to see John Merilatt and any of his supporters give a picture of Mohammed the same treatment and then post that on a Facebook page for Muslims.  It's easy to kick a target that doesn't fight back. It doesn't take bravery to be a bully.
Well Greg Islam is not a religion we know enough about to make that kind of reference to. Even then Greg they don't claim to use the Bible like you do. I also love the reference to kicking a target that doesn't fight back. Joseph insulted us from the very beginning and your pride refuses to allow you move past petty games. Last but not least "It doesn't take bravery to be a bully." You are correct, for you go a lot farther than I ever would. I have never gone after your personal character or anyone else's in order to scare them off. To bad it doesn't work with me.
Peter - The example of John Merilatt and his ministry is the main reason why I do not trust any ministry what so ever when it claims to care to love Mormons, not that I am asking for care or love.  I know my Church is True and that I have a living Prophet that leads me and that Jesus Christ is my Lord and Brother and I say these things in his name..... Amen
Well Peter I wouldn't expect you to trust us. Our goal is to help those in bondage that want a way out to find one. It isn't for Anti-Christians such as yourself. I would ask you this question. If you see a dear friend of yours walking into a field with countless land mines would you keep your mouth shut or allow them to believe what they want? We all know what you "Know". I always love how when there is nothing else to say or you don't have an answer you have to tell yourselves again what you "Know".

This one is one of my favorites...
Peter - I know ha all these ministries that claim o reach out to Mormons are controlled and being led by the children of Satan....... Yes I did say that..... if you have proof that you follow Jesus Christ then give it and don' play games..... if not then go back to Hell with Satan and don't let the doors of Hell hit you in the Ass.
Really? At this point his true colors have come out. So any group that reaches out to Mormons is controlled by Satan huh? Do I have proof I follow Jesus. Absolutely I do. I give my life to serving him however he calls me to. It just so happens that he has laid it upon my heart to try and reach the LDS and JW's. You both claim to be the only true church and organization that can speak for God and yet neither of you have valid answers to Biblical questions we ask. You in turn spit out responses like the one we see here. Can't you just feel the love with his comments?
Last but certainly not least...
Gregory - John, did you forge to wear your WWJD bracelet yesterday?  this isn't very nice.
Well Greg. What would Jesus do? What did he do is the better question. Jesus stood up against those who were perverting his Gospel. Jesus got angry at those who were making a mockery out of his house. He claimed to be the only way of which was not open to interpretation or feelings. He claimed to be the great "I am". We as Christians are called to be salt and light. Salt on an open wound hurts doesn't it? If you don't know try it and get back to me. Ever turned the lights on after having been in a dark room sleeping? Why not look into what the long term affects of being subjected to intense light can do and get back to me.
I hope Helen understands that I want no harm to come to her. I pray that she stops her campaign before she ruins what reputation she has left.  Upon confession, and promise to stop her smear campaigns this article will be removed. Because things like this have to stop.
May God bless you and keep you safe.

13 comments:

  1. Wow! I am praying for you Helen Hulse. Satan has gotten hold of you. Please repent and turn back to Jesus.










    1. I have seen other screen shots where Helen Hulse has said hateful and disgusting things about really good friends of mine. This is just more evidence that she needs mental help in my opinion. I had a run in with her and I "unfriended" her on Facebook as I do not care for drama. It was reaching the point of down right scary. Helen wrote to me and demanded to know why I unfriended her. She then went on a rant and called me non Christian because I had the nerve to block her profile.
      I am so sick and tired of her need for spotlight and attention. Please Helen, this is not about YOU, it is supposed to be about bringing TRUTH and LIGHT to others. It is not the Helen and Rocky show.
      Thanks John, keep up the good work.
      Joey
    2. Joanne, I'll never forget how this whole mess almost made you withdraw from your new Christian friends online. I'll never forget how these certain people seemed to work together to harass others for no good reason. But I'll always praise God for bringing us through that difficult time and how he blessed our friendships to make them rich & strong. You are a rock and a prized daughter of God . I don't know how anyone who knows you would ever 'question' your Christianity. God bless you my Sister and I love you!
    3. Princess, you helped and encouraged me greatly when I was so shaken up and you said "do not leave facebook". I also remember how you came under attack for encouraging me to stay. I was stunned when a woman I believed a friend told me that she was the one who made a big stink saying I was using copy written material and reposting it without giving MMMO credit.
      I simply got things off the internet and posted it, but they love a fight and stir up trouble when there never should have been trouble. Credit was given where credit was due.
      I pray for them and I really hope their eyes are opened from the deception they are all under over there and if they do, I will embrace them with opened arms. I do not hold a grudge. However, seeing this ongoing problem and the number of people they have hurt, I am not going to hold my breath. I have faith that God will bring them to account and they will have the scales removed from their eyes.
      There has to be peace in the body of Christ.
      I love you Princess, and I thank God for friends like you.
      Joey
  2. Thank you for bringing more of the Rocky and Helen horror show to the attention of other Christians. They are damaging the body of Christ and smile while they do it. I have blocked her from my page and Helen called my unchristian when I did so. I am thankful that she is not my judge come judgement day and decides who is Christian and who is not.
    I pray for Helen and Rocky, that this madness stops since Rob has brought their latest attack on a fellow Christian to light on his page, Courageous Christians.
    God bless
    Joey
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  3. Clearly this type of behavior is not fitting for anyone who claims to be a Christian. This is very sad and disappointing.
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  4. This kind of behavior by her is just wrong. Thank you for letting me know. I will make sure to stay away from her and her "ministry".
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  5. John, it's a tragedy to see this type of behavior from someone who claims to represent a legal 501c3 Christian ministry. You didn't deserve to be harassed and have your past thrown in your face by this masked LDS assassin. I too had my personal information misused by this Porter Rockwell and know how you feel. We both know how much we have suffered on account of this person and I turn my case over to the Lord for His perfect justice.

    Based on everything I have witnessed over the past few years, I don't believe that the person who hid behind this fake Porter Rockwell has a relationship with Jesus Christ as they claim. I pray for this person and all those who join her in her ungodly activities and harassment against others. I bless them and hope that they will come to repent of all their deeds before they have to stand before the Savior. He promised to vindicate His servants and doesn't like it when people abuse His children. God is not mocked. What goes around will surely come around too.

    Jesus said: "Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven." (Matthew 7:21)

    God bless you and be with you in your ministry efforts.

  6. Demon possession is what is wrong here. The Hulses are not saved. I do not see and did not ever see them lead others to JESUS. They just bashed a religion and are trying to make a name for themselves for the love of money.
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  7. What an evil woman. I feel sorry for her husband.










    1. I believe that the man is an enabler. He should speak up and stop the insanity, so I do not feel sorry for him at all. Pray pray and pray some more for them.
  8. What a joke this blog is with it's altered emails and comments. Wendy Jensen and John Merilatt (Ephesians 2 Ministry) both known prevaricators, along with several people commenting here have and are working together.

    There are so many lies posted here why waste time responding any of them. I will make sure the Hulse's get a copy of this trash.











    1. Altered? The only alterations made is to remove names of those who don't wish to have their name continued to be ran through the mud by Helen directly or indirectly. Wendy and John both known prevaricators? Spoken by someone defending a person who must still think they are running for prom queen. Listen. There are COUNTLESS people who have asked her to stop with the high school drama only to have them be her next target. So please make sure Helen gets a copy. We along with everyone she's running through the mud will not be bullied by her idol threats of an IRS attorney or a Texas DA. Newsflash!!! An IRS attorney only cares about tax related issues. A Texas DA only cares about issues related within the state of Texas. So please, when she wants to apologize and promises to end the drama then as promised this blog will come down and not a moment sooner.
We did receive a copy of the above blog Ephesians 2 Ministry,  as posted.  It has been mailed to the IRS department handling an open investigation of one 501c3 ministry currently.  It's known Ephesians 2 Ministry is now a 509 thus it also falls under the same 501 IRS non-profit rules.  As for those commenting on the other website/blogs,  it's all the same group of people.  You may believe this isn't serious, but it is illegal.  Our ministry is located in Texas and this case is open and was filed in the State of Texas.  As for the "Altered" emails they are "Altered" which can be proven and will be proven. 

It's now July 18, 2013 yet Arthur Haglund aka presidentin08 claims he has 'NEVER' created a blog, when the facts show otherwise and it remains on Courageous Christians Untied website under News since May 2013. 
Click here for blog.

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Arthur Haglund says...

"WHY did this one get pulled, has Helen and the coward of a husband of hers file a real lawsuit against you guys?
TRUTH is a positive defense in all legal matters. do not give in to Helen's insanity!" (6/14/13)

Arthur Haglund says...

"Helen thinks that because I posted this comment that the blog link above was created by me and has, slanderously, libelously stated so for a second time on her blog. Please, for the record, state that this blog was not created by me. It will be helpfull for the lawsuit against them." (7/29/13)


Updated on 8/15/13 - Notice to 'all' commenting on Rob Sivulka's website and blog.  Prepare your documented proof you have posted against us which is either Libel/ Slander or both.

Libel vs. slander

Libel is the use of false, defamatory claims about someone in written or printed form. Slander likewise denotes false statements that damage a person’s reputation, but it is committed orally or in any other transient form. Both words have complex legal definitions and connotations, which we won’t explore here. Legal complications aside, all you need to remember is that libel is written and slander is spoken. Slander is also often used informally as a synonym of defamation. Both words function as both nouns and verbs.

Names of those who have posted outrageous lies in the order they were posted:
1).  R. M. Sivulka
April 29, 2013
Updated May 2, 2013
2).  Lori Vogt says...
(4/29/13)
3).  Sandi Roberts says...
(4/29/13)
4).  Princess Surjopolos says...
(4/29/13)
5).  Desiree Hollis says...
(4/29/13)
6).  Suzanne Witt says...
(4/29/13)
7).  Wendy Jensen says...
(4/29/13)
8).  Arthur Haglund says...
(4/29/13)
9).  Ron Flinders says...
(4/29/13)
10).  J.R. Merilatt says...
(4/29/13)
11).  Russ Bales says...
(4/30/13)
12). Steve Dealy says...
(4/30/13)
13).  Joey Ferguson (Tibbits) says...
(4/30/13)
14).  Princess Surjopolos says...
(5/1/13)
15).  Russ Bales says...
(5/1/13)
16).  J.R. Merilatt says...
(5/1/13)
17).  Sharon Taylor says...
(5/2/13)
18).  Rob Sivulka says...
(5/3/13)
19).  Princess Surjopolos says...
(5/3/13)
20).  Arthur Haglund says...
(5/3/13)
21).  Joey says...
(5/3/13)
22.  Russ Bales says...
(5/4/13)
23).  Princess Surjopolos says...
(5/5/13)
24).  Joey says...
(5/5/13)
25).  J.R. Merilatt says...
(5/9/13)
26).  Einstein says...
(5/9/13)
27).  Arthur Adam Haglund says...
(5/16/13)
28).  Ricky Szewczyk says...
(6/10/13)

There were only a few comments by others than the names listed above,  thus their names were not included.  We are not sure why they would comment in the manner they did without contacting us directly nor knowing the whole story. 

It's an important thing all of us should remember; when one hears or reads something be careful you don't get a hold of the wrong half.

As a result of the website/blog by Sivulka we discovered another blog dated May 14, 2011 written by J. R. Merilatt which had few comments on it.  We had no idea it had been written and were completely unaware of it. 

However, one thing stands out in Merilatt's blog it's the same group of names and a connection with Merilatt,  her name is Wendy Jensen. 
 

Update: August 26, 2013
We were notified Rob Sivulka cannot stop with his hatred and his drama using us and this ministry to get attention.   On August 20, 2013 he's back posting on his personal Facebook page attempting to get himself attention with the same old group of names and the same old re-hashed 'Lies' having just finished reading what Rob posted and the email he says he receive.

Here's some free advice Rob - Reread the email clearly written by one of those involved in the the slander/libel and it to can be traced by its IP address.  It didn't take long to trace the email, it came from the UK. 
"Hi Rob,

Helen told me a long time ago not to get involved with other ministries and not to trust some of the Salt Lake ministries. All tho I have kept clear of ministries over the past two year, Helen still from time to time sends me messages telling me to be careful and not to trust anyone. I realised a long time ago that the only person I could trust was myself so pulled away from MMMO and then started to be attacked by both Rocky and Helen with the help of a number of others.

When I visit my ... home usually twice a year, Helen once asked me if I could attend any meet up groups and let her know what was done. I never attended any groups.

I felt that I was being used so ran back to the church for safety and that's when the full scale attack on me started by Helen. it resulted me in reporting MMMO to Facebook and involving my legal team whom contacted the local sheriffs department in Helen's home town of Round Rock.

Helen removed all comments from her Facebook page and her MMMO page after Facebook blocked her pages for a number of times.

I hope this gives a little insight."
August 20 at 5:15pm · Like · 1"

You are digging your own holes deeper and deeper with gossip.   Should you not stop for a moment and think of the damage you have already caused and are causing by passing hearsay from person to person?   How is this leading anyone out of Mormonism or the world?  Have any of you shared the gospel of Jesus Christ in one of your comments or have you all repeated the same false things spread about us and MMMO?

 Rob Sivulka , this certainly shows a mature Christian minister (street preacher) as he likes to known. You block us to keep us from seeing your Facebook page. Really, why?  Might you think you can  continue the lying and having others believe those lies without knowing or seeing both side? The answer to that one is "Yes".  Why?   It is the same group of people who continue to slander our names and agree with your whining. 


Everyone else deserves the answer to these three questions, Rob Sivulka.
 

1). Where was this email sent from (what country)?

2). Did you make friends with him after he provided the above email filled with his lies against us and MMMO?

 

3). Did you attempt to verify one word in his email or even who he was?

You either knew and posted his lying email or you wanted to believe his lies so badly you simply posted them without finding our who in fact he is. Either way, it was shameful and disgraceful behavior from someone in Christian ministry.


Since you, Rob Sivulka refuse to answer these three questions,  we are doing it for you.


1).  the email came from the UK

2). Yes, you made friends with him.  He is using the name Pete R. Mako


3).  No,  you have not 'cause it wouldn't fit your agenda and those working with you.

This guy has used numerous names he is a pathological liar and has been pretending to be an ex-Mormon for many years on the MIT forum board and has fooled several people. Yet, several of those commenting on your current Facebook topic Rob Sivulka
Just got this email... "I left the Mormon church a few years ago but due to actions of the Hulses I was driven back to the Lds Church for safety. again I have gone inactive from the Church and thinking of leaving altogether"


What do all of you care more about smearing us or sharing the gospel of Jesus Christ with those who don't know Him as their Lord and Savior? 


Update:  September 11, 2013  -
You all revealed who today - All these screenshots speak for themselves.
Names of people on CCU

Names of people on CCU #2

Private Messages Sent to us on Facebook by Arthur Adam Haglund

"For the love of money is a cause of all sorts of evil, and some by longing for it have wandered away from the faith, and pierced themselves with many a sorrow" (1 Tim. 6:10).


We are as ministry do not use funds donated to MMMO to support ourselves.  Rocky is a retired Naval Officer, 33 years on active duty and receives the retirement he earned.  He currently works a full-time job. We don't live off of other people's money, we work.




Updated 9/12/13 -  As of today here is proof this is still posted and we are being discussed on Rob Rob Sivulka'a Facebook personal page.   We are accused of being in ministry for no other reason than other people's money and the sale of Rocky's book.  This is an outrageous lie!
 Lori Vogt telling others to report MMMO fan page on Facebook to get it removed.



Update 9/17/13 - There is going to be evidence posted on this blog which shows what was originally on the Facebook pages of those involved in the smear against Helen Ann Hulse and the false information continuing to be posted against this ministry MMMO.

Update 9/21/13 - 
Written by a Christian or someone filled with hatred?  Arthur Adam Haglund
"Here is a little story I would like to tell.
A while back, there was a conference in which the daughter of a well known anti cult apologist was speaking at. when she was done and before another speaker started, a nice man wanted to speak to her and get a picture with her. this is not uncommon. the following speaker disliked and his wife positively HATED this nice young man (not unusual, she hates lots of people). The next speaker decided to not say anything there, but a blog and social site entry was made, claiming that the speaker was rudely made to wait and could not start on time. This speaker also said he did not know this young man, even though they have known each other for some time.

The posted threads on the blog and social site stated that this man acted in a bad way. the previous speaker commented on the incident (she had been highly praised by the second speaker) and stated that things did not transpire as the blog and social page claimed. then the posts were removed, and then the speaker and his Mrs started making more false claims against the nice young man when HE mentioned it in his blog. With the daughter of the famous man's comment now gone, the accusation continued and still does.

All the while, this man and wife claim to be victims and lie and lie and lie.

Oh, they Claim to be God's servants, as well.

This ends the story, a sad tale to be true, and one that will have no happy ending until the man and his hateful wife repent and make amends, including telling the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

I doubt it will happen, though."

The above harassment - Art you and your friends and getting the attention you so wanted, but the result is not going to be what you wanted or expected.

Why?  None of you know the truth.
1).   The truth is not within you any of you and it began with Wendy Jensen in South Jordan, Utah and her lying gossip.
 

2).   None of you know the truth about this ministry or us from 2001-to the day we drove out of Nauvoo in June 2008.   Where we went, what we were doing nor why we are located in Texas.

 

Next updates coming: Will be about the time we as a couple spent in Nauvoo, IL as the directors of the Nauvoo Christian Center which will contain the truth, the whole truth and nothing, but the truth with the proof to back up every word.   Stand by for heavy rolls 'cause it is coming and it will include every single person involved in what happened at NCVC.


3). Heads up prepare to answer this lie you posted about us on Rob Sivulka's website CCU' blog,  Steve Dealy - You posted the comment below:
Steve Dealy - NCVC


Steve Dealy says...































"Thank you Rob for speaking out. I have been on the receiving end of their attacks for about seven years. No matter how much I would try to partner with them here in the Nauvoo area I was always treated as competition and an enemy. The ungodly drama that follows in the wake of the Hulses is truly shocking and sad. 'Before his downfall a man's heart is proud..." (Ps. 18:12) I do pray that they repent for slandering so many within the Body of Christ. " (4/30/13)

Our first question to you, Steve.

1).  When, where and with whom did we as a couple in an already established ministry in Denmark, Iowa meet you?  

While you are thinking about your answer remember this important fact.  We had two witnesses with us from California both in the same Ministry who were staying in our home.




Updated: 10/15/13 comments on CCU's blog by Rob Sivulka

Rob Sivulka prsident Courageous Christians United









Rob Sivulka says...

"Neither I, nor my board, endorse the disrespectful speech exhibited in allowing others to comment here. Having said that, the comments still have a point. It's up to you to make up your own minds concerning the truthfulness of this whole matter." (10/15/13)

Rob Sivulka says...

"Upon the advice of my board and my pastor, I have attempted to clean up the disrespectful language of certain others who have commented here against the Hulses. Edits or whole deletions of comments may continue as our board and my pastor sees fit in order to set a more respectful tone while preserving the overall intent of the authors. May cooler heads prevail! " (10/16/13)

Seriously, Rob after posting nothing, but vile hate filed comments including the 'fake' MMMO blogs above by Art Haglund,  you continue to egg people (plus 'fake' profiles' on to attacked us personally by name and MMMO's ministry Fan Page which was on Facebook at the time, you were doing this on your personal Facebook page since 2011.  The mocking and attacks when on from 2011 until they were 'ALL' removed by Facebook  -  Not by you, as you claimed on your Facebook page and yes we do have proof you claimed you removed it. 


So what did you, Rob do?  You moved your attack along with the same vile groupies to your CCU's  blog to began again after the Capstone Conference at Calvary Chapel in Salt Lake City, Utah held on April 12th and 13th, 2013





Why?   As was stated they were removed from Facebook and you needed a ventue.  Now, after months of these lies being posted you are going to take the advice of your board and pastor and attempt to clean up disrespectful language.  Oh boy,  that is a whopper!!   I (Helen) called you first, but had to leave a voice message and then called one of your board members Aaron Shafovaloff in July 2013 in an attempt to speak with you and at least talk about this situation that had gotten out of hand.  I agreed with Aaron to send you an email vise the phone call and you posted it on your website CCU blog rather than respond to it privately. 

 Aaron Shafovaloff ,  you are a flat out liar.  I've had the same cell phone number since '09 and spoken with you on it before.  So for you to say if you'd known it was me you wouldn't have answered the call.  Seriously,  you get calls from Texas while at work and answer them when you don't know whose calling?  Oh, that's laughable you are suppose to be working and you'll take unknown callers while on the job?  Again, Aaron you lied.   I did agree with you during our phone call,  it would be well for all parties to arrange for a conference call and even told you,  Aaron to call you,  Rob Sivulka and Bill McKeever about our conversation on July 9, 2013 and made sure I explained we were going to California and moving so it would be difficult to arrange until after we were settled.  We would be happy to have a conference call with all parties involved.  




All Rocky and I were asking was for you to take down your blog against us and stop using the copyrighted photo you, Rob took off our TV show 'Truth Outreach' after you had used two others photos of us.  
Another point why the urgent need to rush up on the stage during a seminar at the Capstone Conference and yet at the very same church Calvary Chapel in Salt Lake City, Utah same year 2013,  you waited and met one of the speakers at another Seminar, our friend Joel Kramer (who stayed in our home in Nauvoo, IL with Scott Johnson) for him to come to the church foyer?

Rob Sivulka rushed upon the stage during seminar as Jill Martin Rische Walter Martin's Religious InfoNet was attempting to leave after her presentation and Rocky Hulse Mormon Missions Midwest Outreach could begin his presentation.   Instead of waiting for her to return to her table in the church foyer the above photo is the proof of Rob's behavior at Capstone. 
Rob Sivulka getting yet another photo for his collection with Joel Kramer, SourceFlix - Living Hope Ministry.  This was another Seminar held at same church Calvary Chapel in Salt Lake City and in the church foyer where he should have taken his photo with Jill Martin Rische, Walter Martin's Religious InfoNet rather rushing up on the stage in the main sanctuary.


Rob Sivulka has been around those in ministry for years and there is no excuse for his rude behavior at the Capstone Conference vise the correct behavior at another seminar just months later at Calvary Chapel Salt Lake City, Utah.  



Grow up Rob,  your behavior on CCU's blog is anything,  but adult.   It certainly does not display the behavior of a Christian ministry to continuing to post the articles against us and then allow people you know are in fact know liar's and fake profiles to continue your agenda!   







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71 comments:

  1. Arthur Adam Haglund here:
    "What's even more noticeable is the absence of true debate over an issue. Instead, debate has been replaced by ad hominem attacks. The inability to defend one's position with facts and reason, degenerates to attacking the other person. This is not only true in our experience with those of the Mormon faith, as we expose the false teachings of Mormonism, but it also has surfaced in a new entity, those who are trying to make their living off the "Internet" in Mormon Ministry. A large percentage of these new Mormon Ministries have been started by those who never were Mormons, but rather express a "heart for the Mormon people." Not to say that there are not those who are sincere and do a wonderful job at reaching out to those whom are lost in this false religion; however, we have been very viciously attacked by some when we say: "Being an ex-Mormon, I don't see it that way, and here's why.

    We have been "slandered, libeled, undergone copyright infringement, and certainly last but not least, experienced defamation of character." Not our words, the words of our attorney and friend who is chomping at the bit for us to turn him loose in the filing of an action against the offending parties. "

    Helen you are a lying, foul mouthed tool of the devil, doing exactly what you accuse others of doing.
    Where is the Debate?
    You block and ban, after saying vile even racists things, and then quickly and cowardly block and ban
    Seems to me that you are the one who is the lazy money grubber (we are 501c3, which means the Government approves of our ministry, crap!)

    I would welcome that you would attempt to bring a lawsuit against any person you have had conflict with on FB or on the internet, you lying wocrardly witch!
    Yes witch, disobedience is as the sin of witchcraft, Helen
    YOu disobey God and your husband is a corawrd for not putting you in your place, under his authority, what a shame and emasculated man he is to allow you to run rampant
    Repent, you servant of sin!

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    1. Proverbs 14:16 A wise man feareth, and departeth from evil: but the fool rageth, and is confident.

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    2. I'd like to personally thank Art Haglund aka Arthur Adam Haglund aka presidentin08 for opening Pandora's box on all the liars and exposing them.

      1). I'd had never used Skype didn't have a clue how to use it. Until after we spoke at the 2010 Capstone Conference held at Calvary Chapel in Salt Lake City, Utah.

      2). Why would that be, Art? We never heard of Wendy Jensen. She contacted our ministry MMMO and stated she was an ex-Mormon and didn't realize we were at the Capstone Conference until she saw a YouTube video of us on Polygamy: What Love is This?

      3). Wendy Jensen gained my trust and brought Don Ricthey along with her and they became Admins on MMMO.

      4). The first time I was ever on Skype in my life is when Wendy Jensen was having one of her many conference calls with Don Ritchey, John and Kassy Merilatt , Suzanne Witt and I not certain who else. Wendy sent me a PM on Facebook asking if I would get on Skype with them. My comment back to her was "I don't know how to use Skype" and she replied, "No problem just turn it on and I will add you to the conversation. She did and I was surprised at the comments and all the talking, I mostly listened other than answered a couple of questions I was asked by different people.

      Gosh, Art you've gone and done it. The truth is going to come out because you have been duped and you have been used.

      to be continued...

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  2. Rocky, or Should I say LArry and Helen, I WELCOME you to bring some sort of legal action against me. I am not a member of any group as you accuse me of being, but I DO have information of your illegal activities that are continuous up to this very minute!
    Not just slander and libel, but other federal crimes.

    Please, PLEASE, bring on a law suit against me, as I have screen shots galore to show the whole world how very unchristian you are, how you serve Satan through desention, strife, and continuously belittling those who follow Christ and are not Helenites!

    Just so you know there is a HUGE information disclosure coming about the illegal nature of what you have been doing and it might just put you out of business for good.

    IF you wish, you may PM me on FB and provide your attorney that is just chomping at the bit to have at me!

    The truth, Helen and Larry is legally the perfect defense and one cannot be punished for telling the truth in court, so bring it on you lying and foul mouthed servant of Satan!

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    1. Proverbs 14:16 A wise man feareth, and departeth from evil: but the fool rageth, and is confident.

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    2. I'd like to personally thank Art Haglund aka Arthur Adam Haglund aka presidentin08 for opening Pandora's box on all the liars and exposing them.

      1). I'd had never used Skype didn't have a clue how to use it. Until after we spoke at the 2010 Capstone Conference held at Calvary Chapel in Salt Lake City, Utah.

      2). Why would that be, Art? We never heard of Wendy Jensen. She contacted our ministry MMMO and stated she was an ex-Mormon and didn't realize we were at the Capstone Conference until she saw a YouTube video of us on Polygamy: What Love is This?

      3). Wendy Jensen gained my trust and brought Don Ricthey along with her and they became Admins on MMMO.

      4). The first time I was ever on Skype in my life is when Wendy Jensen was having one of her many conference calls with Don Ritchey, John and Kassy Merilatt , Suzanne Witt and I not certain who else. Wendy sent me a PM on Facebook asking if I would get on Skype with them. My comment back to her was "I don't know how to use Skype" and she replied, "No problem just turn it on and I will add you to the conversation. She did and I was surprised at the comments and all the talking, I mostly listened other than answered a couple of questions I was asked by different people.

      Gosh, Art you've gone and done it. The truth is going to come out because you have been duped and you have been used.

      to be continued...

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  3. Art Haglund, Here.
    The lying witch (disobedience is as the sin of witchcraft) and the emasculated man who either cannot or worse, refuses to muzzle his woman and keep her in her place do not seem to have the slightest idea of which you speak!

    You are the owners of your own photos, writings, artwork, music, etc but IF you publish anything without each piece being labeled AT THE MOMENT OF PUBLISHING IT IN THE PUBLIC VIEW, SUCH AS SOCIAL MEDIA, you have willingly passed your copyRIGHTS to PUBLIC DOMAIN. I HAVE studied business law and this is a federal, legal fact!

    Your general, post that no government, etc... has no rights to view or copy anything on your FaceBook or other page does not constitute an actual copyright!

    Anyway, your 2 year anniversary is coming on the 15th, slightly over 4 days from now. HOW EXCITING FOR YOU!

    By the way, God, not man, will bring judgement against you and not one thing I have written, nor ever will write to you can be taken as any sort of threat from me, a mere man. I would not move in any physical way to harm even my worst enemy. It is more than sufficient to expose you, a FALSE Christian, a Servant of Satan, and your wicked emasculated husband the two of you wishing fame and wishing to control who and how God has his children (of which I cannot consider either of you) minister to the LDS!

    Again, I challenge you to bring legal action against me, I welcome the chance to expose you and all of the evil and lies and rumors you have vomited out or your mouth and computer against so many of God's precious children.

    4 days and a few hours and your two year anniversary will be spread like wildfire to all, the body of Christ, those you have fooled and the LDS to finally have more ammunition against your evil and more proof of your lies and deception.

    You and your truth blasts, your ever proclaiming that lies come back to haunt, will have those words come back to you, Helen! Just over 4 days
    I cannot wait!

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    1. Art Haglund here:
      I ONLY ever reply due to your lies and deceit, witch.
      You can give this to your attorney that I did, indeed make and keep(for a few days only) a LAMPOON page on FB also called MMMO (IF only the initials were used, BTW)
      Where your page lied, I told the truth, where you deceived, I enlightened. where you excluded and proclaimed overbearing and presupposed authority, I plead for unity. Yes, it WAS, by all definitions a Lampoon, which is Quite legal.

      However, many were so darn tired of the never ending stream of vitriol coming from the foul mouth of Helen, I was asked to remove it by REAL Christians (meaning NOT the Hulses and their lock-step zombies). Since fe saw it as a Lampoon, a humorous attempt to take tensions out of the situation, I removed it, FB did not, so if you continue to infer they any effort or pull you have with FB caused its coming down, know that you are doing nothing but continuing your long series of libelous slander and deceit. I would love for you to post s single dirty Joke I posted about either of you or your 'ministry' I do not the the steel trap memory of old, But I am darn sure none came from me!
      Your inclusion of such things, deceptively inserted in your rant against me serves one knowing purpose, to get people to think I did such a thing.

      While Mormons may harass you, I know of no Christian who has, sadly, you have not stopped a three fold war, on Children of God, True Christians:
      1. a whisper campaign, wherein you PM and SKYPE with people telling horrible lies, things that never happened nor were said
      2. Posted innuendo, referring to people by some notable characteristic or past know attribute then making up more lies and publishing it
      3. Publishing outright lies about people, this is legally actionable and is called Libel. Check it out with your lawyer on the 14th.

      One final thing, your two yr. anniversary on the 15th has nothing to do with your leg, foot whatever, but may well cost you tens of thousands of dollars in fines and even prison time. These are the things you reap when you sow sin, Helen and Larry (Rocky).

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    2. Proverbs 14:16 A wise man feareth, and departeth from evil: but the fool rageth, and is confident.

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    3. I'd like to personally thank Art Haglund aka Arthur Adam Haglund aka presidentin08 for opening Pandora's box on all the liars and exposing them.

      1). I'd had never used Skype didn't have a clue how to use it. Until after we spoke at the 2010 Capstone Conference held at Calvary Chapel in Salt Lake City, Utah.

      2). Why would that be, Art? We never heard of Wendy Jensen. She contacted our ministry MMMO and stated she was an ex-Mormon and didn't realize we were at the Capstone Conference until she saw a YouTube video of us on Polygamy: What Love is This?

      3). Wendy Jensen gained my trust and brought Don Ricthey along with her and they became Admins on MMMO.

      4). The first time I was ever on Skype in my life is when Wendy Jensen was having one of her many conference calls with Don Ritchey, John and Kassy Merilatt , Suzanne Witt and I not certain who else. Wendy sent me a PM on Facebook asking if I would get on Skype with them. My comment back to her was "I don't know how to use Skype" and she replied, "No problem just turn it on and I will add you to the conversation. She did and I was surprised at the comments and all the talking, I mostly listened other than answered a couple of questions I was asked by different people.

      Gosh, Art you've gone and done it. The truth is going to come out because you have been duped and you have been used.

      to be continued...


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    4. I'd like to personally thank Art Haglund aka Arthur Adam Haglund aka presidentin08 for opening Pandora's box on all the liars and exposing them.

      1). I'd had never used Skype didn't have a clue how to use it. Until after we spoke at the 2010 Capstone Conference held at Calvary Chapel in Salt Lake City, Utah.

      2). Why would that be, Art? We never heard of Wendy Jensen. She contacted our ministry MMMO and stated she was an ex-Mormon and didn't realize we were at the Capstone Conference until she saw a YouTube video of us on Polygamy: What Love is This?

      3). Wendy Jensen gained my trust and brought Don Ricthey along with her and they became Admins on MMMO.

      4). The first time I was ever on Skype in my life is when Wendy Jensen was having one of her many conference calls with Don Ritchey, John and Kassy Merilatt , Suzanne Witt and I not certain who else. Wendy sent me a PM on Facebook asking if I would get on Skype with them. My comment back to her was "I don't know how to use Skype" and she replied, "No problem just turn it on and I will add you to the conversation. She did and I was surprised at the comments and all the talking, I mostly listened other than answered a couple of questions I was asked by different people.

      Gosh, Art you've gone and done it. The truth is going to come out because you have been duped and you have been used.

      to be continued...

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  4. Art Haglund here
    I love that you posted my lampoon of you guys and then, underneath, post a copyright notice. That, is a CRIME. Not just a civil suit could be brought, but criminal charges of theft as you are claiming ownership of something not made for hire and not generated by either of you!
    BTW a screen shot has been taken, so even if you decide to change it later, you did, indeed, claim a copyright of what I produced!

    BTW tomorrow is your big coming out party two yr anniversary of what began 5 yrs ago! Soon everyone will celebrate it with you!

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    1. Proverbs 14:16 A wise man feareth, and departeth from evil: but the fool rageth, and is confident.

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    2. I'd like to personally thank Art Haglund aka Arthur Adam Haglund aka presidentin08 for opening Pandora's box on all the liars and exposing them.

      1). I'd had never used Skype didn't have a clue how to use it. Until after we spoke at the 2010 Capstone Conference held at Calvary Chapel in Salt Lake City, Utah.

      2). Why would that be, Art? We never heard of Wendy Jensen. She contacted our ministry MMMO and stated she was an ex-Mormon and didn't realize we were at the Capstone Conference until she saw a YouTube video of us on Polygamy: What Love is This?

      3). Wendy Jensen gained my trust and brought Don Ricthey along with her and they became Admins on MMMO.

      4). The first time I was ever on Skype in my life is when Wendy Jensen was having one of her many conference calls with Don Ritchey, John and Kassy Merilatt , Suzanne Witt and I not certain who else. Wendy sent me a PM on Facebook asking if I would get on Skype with them. My comment back to her was "I don't know how to use Skype" and she replied, "No problem just turn it on and I will add you to the conversation. She did and I was surprised at the comments and all the talking, I mostly listened other than answered a couple of questions I was asked by different people.

      Gosh, Art you've gone and done it. The truth is going to come out because you have been duped and you have been used.

      to be continued...

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  5. Art Haglund here,

    http://apps.irs.gov/app/eos/displayRevocation.do?dispatchMethod=displayRevokeInfo&revocationId=418072&ein=753017949&exemptTypeCode=al&isDescending=false&totalResults=39&postDateTo=&ein1=&state=IA&dispatchMethod=searchRevocation&postDateFrom=&country=US&city=&searchChoice=revoked&indexOfFirstRow=25&sortColumn=ein&resultsPerPage=25&names=Mormon+Missions+Midwest+Outreach&zipCode=&deductibility=all
    DID you know that MMMO, claiming to BE a 501(c)3 has not been one for two years? They still claim it!
    They have been reported to BOTH the IRS and the FBI for a number of charges, ranging from fraudulently claiming to BE a 501(c)3, and tax fraud to internet and interstate theft, but fraudulently soliciting donations AS a 501(c)3, when they were not one, that is a BIG no-no.
    Today is their Two Year anniversary of their status being revoked. The IRS was contacted, and it is confirmed that MMMO, Mormon Outreach, Larry (Rocky) nor Helen Hulse ARE currently a registered 501(c)3.
    The Press has been notified, as well.

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    1. Proverbs 14:16 A wise man feareth, and departeth from evil: but the fool rageth, and is confident.

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    2. You made a fool out of yourself, Art again and again all over the internet. Proverbs 14:16 did describe you!

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    3. I'd like to personally thank Art Haglund aka Arthur Adam Haglund aka presidentin08 for opening Pandora's box on all the liars and exposing them.

      1). I'd had never used Skype didn't have a clue how to use it. Until after we spoke at the 2010 Capstone Conference held at Calvary Chapel in Salt Lake City, Utah.

      2). Why would that be, Art? We never heard of Wendy Jensen. She contacted our ministry MMMO and stated she was an ex-Mormon and didn't realize we were at the Capstone Conference until she saw a YouTube video of us on Polygamy: What Love is This?

      3). Wendy Jensen gained my trust and brought Don Ricthey along with her and they became Admins on MMMO.

      4). The first time I was ever on Skype in my life is when Wendy Jensen was having one of her many conference calls with Don Ritchey, John and Kassy Merilatt , Suzanne Witt and I not certain who else. Wendy sent me a PM on Facebook asking if I would get on Skype with them. My comment back to her was "I don't know how to use Skype" and she replied, "No problem just turn it on and I will add you to the conversation. She did and I was surprised at the comments and all the talking, I mostly listened other than answered a couple of questions I was asked by different people.

      Gosh, Art you've gone and done it. The truth is going to come out because you have been duped and you have been used.

      to be continued...

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  6. Art Haglund here,
    "
    There is a problem to be sure from what being written on our website's blog.

    It is odd since he and others have been stating we have no copyrights whatsoever when in fact we do, including our names.

    Yet now to complain about their own copyright laws. All along denied this was ever placed on a Christian ministry page, it is easy to see it was indeed.

    The truth can handle scrutiny, but unfortunately some people can't handle truth. All we seek is the truth, the whole truth and nothing, but the truth come forth."

    That is what one of you, I WILL assume Helen, as Larry usually is too cowardly to reply.

    I have never stated that you have no copyrights, that is just one more lie of yours, Helen. I wonder is you have a demon inside you that causes you to lie so constantly, consistently and with no remorse.

    What I HAVE stated is that you cannot publish something publicly and after the fact claim a copyright over it, that Is the LAW (I know you have no qualms breaking the Law, claiming to be a 501c3, when you have not been for two years)

    When you do such a thing, the thing in question pases into what is called public domain. If you actually have an attorney, ask him or her about it.

    BTW, your 2002 copyright notice directly below screenshots of MY work, is fraudulent as you cannot copyright another person's work, especially public domain work, which all of that was.

    But do not worry, Larry and Helen, With the Coming storm of press, FBI, IRS and possibly defrauded contributors coming after you, this will be the least of your worries!

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    1. Proverbs 14:16 A wise man feareth, and departeth from evil: but the fool rageth, and is confident.

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    2. I'd like to personally thank Art Haglund aka Arthur Adam Haglund aka presidentin08 for opening Pandora's box on all the liars and exposing them.

      1). I'd had never used Skype didn't have a clue how to use it. Until after we spoke at the 2010 Capstone Conference held at Calvary Chapel in Salt Lake City, Utah.

      2). Why would that be, Art? We never heard of Wendy Jensen. She contacted our ministry MMMO and stated she was an ex-Mormon and didn't realize we were at the Capstone Conference until she saw a YouTube video of us on Polygamy: What Love is This?

      3). Wendy Jensen gained my trust and brought Don Ricthey along with her and they became Admins on MMMO.

      4). The first time I was ever on Skype in my life is when Wendy Jensen was having one of her many conference calls with Don Ritchey, John and Kassy Merilatt , Suzanne Witt and I not certain who else. Wendy sent me a PM on Facebook asking if I would get on Skype with them. My comment back to her was "I don't know how to use Skype" and she replied, "No problem just turn it on and I will add you to the conversation. She did and I was surprised at the comments and all the talking, I mostly listened other than answered a couple of questions I was asked by different people.

      Gosh, Art you've gone and done it. The truth is going to come out because you have been duped and you have been used.

      to be continued...

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  7. Art Haglund here,
    I see you have deleted your own responses. Probably more of your FaceBook quality attempts to pretend that you did not EVER answer and ALL of my contact was unprovoked. Thank God for Technology, Right Helen? I saved the WHOLE page with your responses, so they DO exist and they have been saved to an online server where you will have no ability to touch or corrupt them, but they do serve as witness against you.
    Now to the point. I have had Paypal start and investigation into your receiving donations through them, because you have claimed for the 2 yrs you have been revoked of your cherished 501c3 and now you do not prominently (no notice at all, actually) display that donations are NOT tax deductible (we have screen shots of you calling others fake Christians for not being 501c3 AND soliciting financial assistance, btw).
    I informed Paypal that the IRS and FBI are informed to investigate you, your husband and your 'ministry' .
    I have informed the Cedar Park Newspaper along with two other local newspapers about your fraud. I HAVE contacted the FBI, and the the IRS was contacted by another person that you also love to hate and lie about.
    I contacted the Associated Press, FAIRLDS.orG, and the Deseret News. You have Seen the exposure I have given you (free of charge, no need to thank me) on twitter. Tomorrow, I will be contacting ALL American Banks to alert them to your possible fraudulent activities over the last 2-5 yrs and the US Postal service, since you HAVE, indeed, sent our physical mailings in that time, which did include an appeal to donate, thus making it interstate mail fraud, another federal Crime, Helen.

    I have posted your revoked IRS 501c3 status on many, many sites that listed anything about you, going back to 2007, the last year you were fully 501c3 compliant.

    I will also be contacting the three credit reporting bureaus to let them know of your illegal claims of this status and the proper, US Government IRS links proving the FACT that you have not been such a legitimate entity since 5-15-11

    You, Helen, and your gutless, spineless husband, Larry, who has utterly refused to muzzle you, are about to pay the price for ALL you have done to the Children of God with your lies, slanders, libelous rantings.
    You, Helen, with your extremely large mouth and incessant vomiting forth of evil will, finally, learn.

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    1. Proverbs 14:16 A wise man feareth, and departeth from evil: but the fool rageth, and is confident.

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    2. Your mouth speaking for itself, Art.

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    3. I'd like to personally thank Art Haglund aka Arthur Adam Haglund aka presidentin08 for opening Pandora's box on all the liars and exposing them.

      1). I'd had never used Skype didn't have a clue how to use it. Until after we spoke at the 2010 Capstone Conference held at Calvary Chapel in Salt Lake City, Utah.

      2). Why would that be, Art? We never heard of Wendy Jensen. She contacted our ministry MMMO and stated she was an ex-Mormon and didn't realize we were at the Capstone Conference until she saw a YouTube video of us on Polygamy: What Love is This?

      3). Wendy Jensen gained my trust and brought Don Ricthey along with her and they became Admins on MMMO.

      4). The first time I was ever on Skype in my life is when Wendy Jensen was having one of her many conference calls with Don Ritchey, John and Kassy Merilatt , Suzanne Witt and I not certain who else. Wendy sent me a PM on Facebook asking if I would get on Skype with them. My comment back to her was "I don't know how to use Skype" and she replied, "No problem just turn it on and I will add you to the conversation. She did and I was surprised at the comments and all the talking, I mostly listened other than answered a couple of questions I was asked by different people.

      Gosh, Art you've gone and done it. The truth is going to come out because you have been duped and you have been used.

      to be continued...

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  8. STILL, as of today, you are shown by the IRS as not being 501c3 and not permitted to accept any donations that are tax deductible.

    Even your paypal and this very site do not mention your claimed (Yes, you have still, within the last 30 days claimed to STILL be 501c3, I have saved the web pages and have screen shots
    Personally, I have contacted the local news agencies in your area, I Arthur Adam Haglund HAVE contacted the local FBI and the IRS concerning your fraudulent claims.
    I contacted Paypal and provided them with the IRS web pages showing that you are not 501c3, not permitted to solicit as tex exempt and you are in violation of IRS regulations for not posting PROMINENTLY that any and all donations to you are NOT tax deductible.
    I shall be contacting each and every banking institution in and around, both local and national banks to make them aware of your fraud, also providing them with the IRS proof and the fact that you have been reported to your state's Attorney General and the FBI and IRS

    I hope you did file charges against someone (which I doubt, because you are a constant liar and a day in court would out you officially permanently and forever), all the screen shots from all whom you have harassed will be brought up, including your threats and false claims of copyright.
    You cannot Copyright your own names, you two idiots. You have been provided with THAT proof, several times, yet you still lie and lie, and lie!

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    2. I'd like to personally thank Art Haglund aka Arthur Adam Haglund aka presidentin08 for opening Pandora's box on all the liars and exposing them.

      1). I'd had never used Skype didn't have a clue how to use it. Until after we spoke at the 2010 Capstone Conference held at Calvary Chapel in Salt Lake City, Utah.

      2). Why would that be, Art? We never heard of Wendy Jensen. She contacted our ministry MMMO and stated she was an ex-Mormon and didn't realize we were at the Capstone Conference until she saw a YouTube video of us on Polygamy: What Love is This?

      3). Wendy Jensen gained my trust and brought Don Ricthey along with her and they became Admins on MMMO.

      4). The first time I was ever on Skype in my life is when Wendy Jensen was having one of her many conference calls with Don Ritchey, John and Kassy Merilatt , Suzanne Witt and I not certain who else. Wendy sent me a PM on Facebook asking if I would get on Skype with them. My comment back to her was "I don't know how to use Skype" and she replied, "No problem just turn it on and I will add you to the conversation. She did and I was surprised at the comments and all the talking, I mostly listened other than answered a couple of questions I was asked by different people.

      Gosh, Art you've gone and done it. The truth is going to come out because you have been duped and you have been used.

      to be continued...

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  9. Art Haglund here:
    Keep your word, witch (disobedience is as the sin of witchcraft, Helen!)
    Post the waiting comments. You are so big and bad on FaceBook, with your threats, but your follow through is lacking, you prove to many who open their eyes to see your lies. You have claimed to have copyrighted everything from your ministry name to your own names. you have been shown to be LIARS there, so you delted your claims. attempting to revise the past, very Mormon-like of you and Larry.
    You hace claimed that you HAVE filed lawsuits, but you have not, lol. More lies.
    After it was posted that you cannot copyright your own names, you them post a proof that you and Larry have only 1 copyright between you both!
    thanks for the URL. though. I found that MMMO nor MO has copyrights either.
    As for your continuous claim that you are 501c3, we all know that it is still untrue, but keep lying. Satan is pleased with you. Maybe you are hoping he will win in the end and you will be rewarded?

    I know you will not post this, as it further exposes you as a liar and your Husband as a coward who is hopelessly incapable of keeping his wife in Biblical subjection. No wonder he does ROTC and other things. The bible says it is better to live on the roof than to live in the same house with a woman like you!

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    2. I'd like to personally thank Art Haglund aka Arthur Adam Haglund aka presidentin08 for opening Pandora's box on all the liars and exposing them.

      1). I'd had never used Skype didn't have a clue how to use it. Until after we spoke at the 2010 Capstone Conference held at Calvary Chapel in Salt Lake City, Utah.

      2). Why would that be, Art? We never heard of Wendy Jensen. She contacted our ministry MMMO and stated she was an ex-Mormon and didn't realize we were at the Capstone Conference until she saw a YouTube video of us on Polygamy: What Love is This?

      3). Wendy Jensen gained my trust and brought Don Ricthey along with her and they became Admins on MMMO.

      4). The first time I was ever on Skype in my life is when Wendy Jensen was having one of her many conference calls with Don Ritchey, John and Kassy Merilatt , Suzanne Witt and I not certain who else. Wendy sent me a PM on Facebook asking if I would get on Skype with them. My comment back to her was "I don't know how to use Skype" and she replied, "No problem just turn it on and I will add you to the conversation. She did and I was surprised at the comments and all the talking, I mostly listened other than answered a couple of questions I was asked by different people.

      Gosh, Art you've gone and done it. The truth is going to come out because you have been duped and you have been used.

      to be continued...

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  10. Art here again!
    Thanks for posting all this, and for continuing to not post the responses you had posted on this page. I just saved the web page, so it contains all the info needed for court. You have committed, for who knows how many times, a libelous thing about me. You have claimed that I have a blog. I do not. I have not set up a blog. I might do it though and sho the various stages of information manipulation you do, Helen. I think it is about time I seek an attorney in Texas and file a defamation lawsuit against you with a claim big enough to put you and your coward husband in the poor house forever! It is time to shut your wicked, evil lying (provable, thus legally allowed to say it) mouth!

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    1. Proverbs 14:16 A wise man feareth, and departeth from evil: but the fool rageth, and is confident.

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    2. I'd like to personally thank Art Haglund aka Arthur Adam Haglund aka presidentin08 for opening Pandora's box on all the liars and exposing them.

      1). I'd had never used Skype didn't have a clue how to use it. Until after we spoke at the 2010 Capstone Conference held at Calvary Chapel in Salt Lake City, Utah.

      2). Why would that be, Art? We never heard of Wendy Jensen. She contacted our ministry MMMO and stated she was an ex-Mormon and didn't realize we were at the Capstone Conference until she saw a YouTube video of us on Polygamy: What Love is This?

      3). Wendy Jensen gained my trust and brought Don Ricthey along with her and they became Admins on MMMO.

      4). The first time I was ever on Skype in my life is when Wendy Jensen was having one of her many conference calls with Don Ritchey, John and Kassy Merilatt , Suzanne Witt and I not certain who else. Wendy sent me a PM on Facebook asking if I would get on Skype with them. My comment back to her was "I don't know how to use Skype" and she replied, "No problem just turn it on and I will add you to the conversation. She did and I was surprised at the comments and all the talking, I mostly listened other than answered a couple of questions I was asked by different people.

      Gosh, Art you've gone and done it. The truth is going to come out because you have been duped and you have been used.

      to be continued...

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  11. 'Vengeance is Mine, and retribution, In due time their foot will slip; For the day of their calamity is near, And the impending things are hastening upon them.' DEUTERONOMY 32:35

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  12. Correction, MMMO was fully 501(c)3 as of may 2013. They were revoked from 5 2100 until they became compliant in JULY of 2012. During that time, MMMO continued via posts and their ABOUT section of the FB page (and elsewhere) that they were 501(c)3 during this time that they were not. They never came out and conspicuously mentioned their lack of compliance nor their legal inability to receive donations of a tax free sort.

    During this time, however Helen and company did harass others for NOT having this standing, and claiming that it is the governments seal of approval upon a ministry, which is patently false. Helen and company said that it is part of being a Christian ministry. ANOTHER LIE.

    Helen loves to claim "lies", but why the ""? Maybe because shw knows it is not lies, so she included the "" to shield herself???

    In any event, MMMO has not, because they cannot disspell anything shown about them. THIS is the reason they ONLY laughed and said "lies" instead of providing actually proof they have about the dates they were and were not 501(c)3.

    They, SHE, could not provide this information and disprove what was said without also proving when they were NOT eligible and thereby sustain the assertion that they were, indeed, truly ineligible for more than a year.
    They would have to divulge that during that year they broke the law by asserting they were eligible and solicited funds as if they were.

    They now rail against a phantom accusation.
    We are as ministry do not use funds donated to MMMO to support ourselves. Rocky is a retired Navy Officer, 33 years on active duty and he currently works a full-time job which adds to our personal needs.

    No one has asserted they DID pretend to live off of donations. This is a strawman and an weak and obvious one, at that.

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    1. Art,

      You are so misinformed it is shocking at times. It is apparent you are being fed what they want to feed you and nothing more; however, it's enough to expose the sources.

      You have no knowledge whatsoever concerning our ministry and the IRS (neither do the others), your rant was proven to be wrong and your continuing rant will be shown wrong also.




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  13. Larry, I called the IRS myself and I posted the information the IRS agent, including his ID number, that I was given. IF this information IS false, just post the truth-. You have been , well your wicked and disgustingly foul wife has been, attacking people for years now. She has no qualms about lying, and twisting things just so she can pretend to be a victim.
    So, Larry, Why not show the world ALL ABOUT your revocation, or are you going to claim that you NEVER had your 501(c)3 revoked and the big bad IRS is just another entity out to get you and your lying witch (Rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, after all)?

    Why continue to do everything BUT post the TRUTH since you continue to make claims that we have it so wrong? So far, WE have posted supportable facts, with one mistake, the date, which I have corrected. I got htis from NO ONE but the IRS, so, Larry, why not clear it up and come clean, or is clean something you fear?

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  14. Exempt Organizations Select Check

    Exempt Organizations Select Check Home
    Automatic Revocation of Exemption -- Search Results
    The federal tax exemption of each organization listed below was automatically revoked for its failure to file a Form 990-series return or notice for three consecutive years. The revocation date listed below for each organization is historical; it reflects an organization's effective date of automatic revocation for not filing a Form 990-series return or notice for three consecutive years, but not necessarily its current tax-exempt or non-exempt status. The organization may have applied to the IRS for recognition of exemption and been recognized by the IRS as tax-exempt after its effective date of automatic revocation. Click on an organization's name to see more details on that organization. To check whether an organization is currently recognized by the IRS as tax-exempt, call Customer Account Services at (877) 829-5500 (toll-free number).

    Results are sorted by EIN. To sort results by another category, click on the icon next to the column heading for that category. Clicking on that icon a second time will reverse the sort order. Click on a column heading for an explanation of information in that column.

    1-1 of 1 results Results Per Page « Prev | 1-1 | Next »
    EIN Sorted Ascending Legal Name (Doing Business As) Sorted Ascending City Sorted Ascending State Sorted Ascending ZIP Sorted Ascending Country Sorted Ascending Exemption
    Type Sorted Ascending Revocation
    Date Sorted Ascending Revocation
    Posting Date Sorted Ascending
    75-3017949 MORMON MISSIONS MIDWEST OUTREACH DENMARK IA 52624 US 501(c)(3) 15-May-2011 22-Feb-2012

    Copy and pasted from the IRS site, and here is the URL, LARRY!

    http://apps.irs.gov/app/eos/revokeSearch.do?ein1=75-3017949&names=&city=&state=All...&zipCode=&country=US&exemptTypeCode=al&postDateFrom=&postDateTo=&dispatchMethod=searchRevocation&submitName=Search

    You are attempting to say this is incorrect, Larry?

    Are you telling people, in all honesty that you never were revoked for failure to file the required paperwork?

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  15. You state that I and others have NO idea nor ANY infoprmation. I notice that YOU post a LOT of smack, but refuse to post the permanent IRS page that shows you WERE, INDEED revoked!
    I also notice that you REFUSE to post the paperwork that you would, by need, have, if we lied! But you do not, because you cannot disprove what we have said. Yes, we DID err, because incomplete information was asked, and thus incomplete information was given BY THE IRS
    Contrary to your lying accusations, the IRS MUST give out ALL of the information that you supplky because you are a OUBLIC charity. OUBLIC means just that. EVERYTHING you submit to the IRS is available to the public, including the dates that you were ineligible.

    So, PROVE US TO BE LIARS!
    You will not, BECAUSE YOU CAN NOT!

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  16. It angers and saddens me that Rob Sivulka, Art Hagland, Wendy Jensen, Princess-now there's a name for you- and others claiming to be Christians are demonstrating such evil, lying, vicious behavior! Their behavior is cowardly and they are intent on spreading vile slander rather than come to know and understand the truth! Helen and Rocky have posted evidence of their innocence of these unconscionable attacks! Art's evil is particularly contemptible! He shows a perverse and malevolent spirit! He would rather spew vomit all day than take the time to learn and respond to truth! Like a dog, he returns to his vomit several times daily and weekly. He has nothing better to do! He is a "low" person-the kind of person that Proverbs warns against! Rob is spineless! He lacks the integrity to investigate a matter for himself, and chooses to believe malicious gossip! His behavior in going on stage to talk with Jill Martin was childish and rude! He needed to wait until she was at a table with her book before he approached her! His behavior was an apparent attempt to draw attention to himself-which he did. However, juvenile, self-seeking behavior is the least of his problems. He can't be trusted with private information! He isn't a trustworthy person! Sadly, Christian is a label he wears, but he has limited understanding of the heart and genuine mindset of a Christian. In looking at the company he keeps, he has surrounded himself with people who are pathological, chronic liars! The truth isn't in any of them!

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  17. Proverbs 18:13 He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him.

    NO COMMENTS ARE ALLOWED ON THIS PHOTO - ANY AND ALL WILL BE DELETED.”


    R. M. Sivulka
    President, Courageous Christians United
    April 29, 2013
    Updated May 2, 2013
    R. M. Sivulka
    President, Courageous Christians United
    "....Then on April 28, 2013, we noticed that the whole post was deleted. If one wants verification of any comments on this post, we have screen shots.""

    Seriously, Rob I clearly stated above if the comments did not stop I was going to remove the entire post, thus using logic it would delete all comments. You also put works in my mouth to our friends comment Jill which was not said by me, nor implied. You, Rob are a liar and have twisted my words long enough. I've remained silent long enough. I also have screenshots, so what's your point?

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  18. Arthur Adam Haglund aka Art Haglund aka presidentin08 and Peter Anderson-Makinson aka Peter R Anderson Makinson aka Peter R Mako or whatever name either of you are using at the moment.

    I have no need to post anything as (Anonymous) to either one of you. I say this openly to everyone commenting on CCU and all reading this ... You are both Liars and wouldn't know the Truth, if it ran over you with a Mack Truck, then maybe you don't know what those are in Mexico or England.

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    1. Arthur Adam Haglund aka Art Haglund aka presidentin08 you are a flat out LIAR and you are LYING on CCU's blog (see below) - Art was brought to us by Wendy Jensen and Don Richey ... they LIED about him. I spoke with you via Sky and you LIED to me to become an Admin on MMMO. You were removed the next day and sent a message from Rocky stating the reason why and there was nothing in that message which would have offended any sane person. We still have that message and have not talked with you since, yet you've kept up your vile language and hatred where and whenever possible.

      Nothing, no setting has been changed on this blog. Your comments are posted as written by you, not one word has been changed and you are not blocked from commenting on this blog. You are a LIAR!

      "Arthur Haglund says...
      "I think, cannot know, that the Hulses have made some changes to their blog that no longer allows me to post comments. I see my posts disappear and cannot review them, no matter if I sign in with my Google ID, or by name.

      So, they are claiming that I have lied and did not post to their blog. Well I did, indeed. If their settings no longer allow me to post, then it is, once again Hulse schemes, that make it seem that others are liars, when the evil comes and continues to come from them. I declare Larry and Helen Hulse ANATHEMA, NOT within the body of Christ, for continual false accusations against the brethren, unrepentant flasehoods, lies and deception. they are of their father, the Devil and are partial fulfillment of the prophetic word that Satan is converted into an angel of light and HIS ministers, in the guise of ministers of righteousness. REAL Christians do not, CAN NOT continue in such offensive sin against other Christians and live in such a deceptive, haughty pride and these to evil doers continue to do!

      Any person is free do disagree with my proclamation, but I will stans by it, until they openly repent, admit ALL their lies and deception or until I die, which ever comes first.

      Me the Lord rebuke them." (10/12/13)"

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  19. "Hulses Sowing More Discord Among the Brethren"
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    R. M. Sivulka
    President, Courageous Christians United
    April 29, 2013
    Updated May 2, 2013

    How many of you commenting have first hand knowledge (present) of what happened during the Capstone Conference on April 13, 2013 at Calvary Chapel in Salt Lake City, Utah?

    If you were present step forward and tell what you saw and heard yourself, please do not repeat gossip.

    I am curious by what was written on CCC's blog by Sivulka.

    I am certain there are others who are wondering along with me as to the article there and the article here along with the different comments.

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    1. I was at the Capstone Conference. I did watch Rob Sivulka walk on stage as Jill was getting her things together to exit and Rocky Hulse was setting up his presentation. Rob directly asked Rocky to take the picture of Jill and Rob. Rocky, being the man that he is, took it. I could see that he was embarrassed and thrown off of his train of thought regarding his lesson from the interruption. Not only was this interruption rude, but it was downright prideful. WHO interrupts a presentation to get their picture taken with a speaker during a conference??? I guarantee the Lord saw it all, too. Some of us even brought Him with us.

      Thank you Helen and Rocky Hulse for standing for His Truth, with integrity and in love for our LDS family who are perishing for their lack of knowledge of the Truth. May His grace abound to you two, more and more!

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    2. Thank you for stepping forward with courage to speak the truth as to what occurred upon the stage at Calvary Chapel in Salt Lake City on April 13, 2013.

      Psalm 1:6 For the Lord knoweth the way of the righteous: but the way of the ungodly shall perish. - We are blessed to know this is true!

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  20. Steve Dealy, of the Nauvoo Christian Visitors Center, posted on Facebook that he's getting supplies and working on projects now that Nauvoo is quiet. He also commented that the Lord is bringing him into contact with LDS members as he goes about his routines-including stopping at the grocery store. Of course God is bringing him into contact with LDS persons! The town if full of them! You can't avoid contact with them! So why is the center closed?

    The center has been closed daily since September 30. The new Nauvoo travel brochure shows that the center is open only 5 months-from April to Labor Day. He has been open since Labor Day, but the center is now definitely closed. Steve has told people in town that there is no need for the center to be open other than during the tourism season; he has actually said that there "isn't a need" for it to be open other times. Then, he posts that God is bringing him into contact with LDS members as if this is some pre-ordained encounter!
    His posts give the impression that he's thrilled with such meetings! If he was genuinely concerned about ministering to LDS members, and non-Mormons in the community, he would be open throughout the year! He would have regular hours and be available throughout the year!

    People have commented about the Steve's lack of availability; in fact, they have said that the only way they know anything is going on at the center is that Steve changes window decorations. He loves to decorate! The new travel brochure shows that the LDS Visitors' Center is open every day of the year, including Sundays, with regularly-scheduled hours!
    Not only does Steve not have regular hours, he's apparently reluctant to share any information about his availability-or lack of it-with the general public. He's posted a Smartphone computer scan that only people with Smartphones can use to see what's posted. I don't have a Smartphone!

    Bottom line-the LDS church is a whole lot more excited about sharing Joseph Smith than Steve is about sharing Jesus! There's no denying it! The LDS church is much more determined to share a lie than Steve is about sharing truth! He's lazy, but like to give the impression that he's busy.

    Steve posted that he made efforts to work with Helen and Rocky Hulse but they refused to work with him because they didn't want the competition! What a lie! Steve has publicly "slammed" the Hulses on so many occasions that it's very evident he would never even consider working with them! Why! Because they have a work ethic and he doesn't!

    When the Hulses were the directors at the center, it was open five days a week from 10:00 a.m. - 6:00 p.m. Sundays and Mondays were supposed to be "off" days, but they spoke in churches on Sundays and filmed their T.V. program, "Truth Outreach," on Mondays. They really never had a day "off!" Steve has spoken in churches on a very limited basis, and he's never done a T.V. program. Those who are familiar with him will not give him his own show! His poor work ethic and behavior, including lying, are known. He wants year-round donations for five months of work! How "cushy!" He's disgusting! I would call him a sloth, but even a sloth has more integrity!

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    1. Thank you for your comment about what is happening in Nauvoo, IL at the Visitors Center. Rocky and I did work non-stop and left the center in sound financial condition in June '08.

      Proof of that will be posted at a later date.

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  21. Steve Dealy, of the Nauvoo Christian Visitors Center, commented on the Courageous Christians blog that he found the Hulses' behavior "shocking and sad..." If you ask me, it is shocking and sad that he claims to be in ministry for Christ, but he can only be available to the community of Nauvoo five months of the year! Now that's "shocking and sad!" He's the poorest excuse for an evangelist! I would be embarrassed to have such weak interaction with the public and community published in the local Nauvoo travel guide! Unconscionable!
    It's also inexcusable that those writing on this blog aren't aware of Steve's poor, weak interaction with the community. Some don't even know his name, and he's been at the center for four and a half years! Very telling!

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    1. Steve Dealy met Colleen Ralson, a former Mormon and the 1st director at the Nauvoo Christian Visitors Centen in Florida in '01. Steve moved immediately to Nauvoo and did a few odd jobs while staying at the center.

      Colleen and Steve had a falling out (I won't go into the details even though I do know them) and he moved having nothing more to do with her. Steve did remain in Nauvoo and moved into an apartment attempting to run his Misson2Mormons ministry with not much success other than sending out letters with pleas for money, as he had moved into an old school house in Elvaston, IL.

      In 2002 the LDS Church had completed the Nauvoo Temple and was holding it's open house. Colleen Ralson at NCVC contacted several ministries to come to Nauvoo and help along side her in the outreach. Here is a list of the ministries which came:
      John Farkas, a former Mormon with his wife - Berean Christian Ministries from Palmyra , NY
      Michelle Grim, a 6th generation Mormon with her husband - Life After Ministry from Washington
      Rocky Hulse, a 6th/4th generation Mormon with his wife - Mormon Missions Midwest Outreach from Denmark, IA
      Bill Mckeever, non Mormon & Eric Johnson, non Mormon - Mormonism Research Ministry from El Cajon, CA
      And several other Christians came to help hand out material and witness.

      Nowhere to be found was Steve Dealy during the two weeks, he did not work along any of us except for one evening when the board members had arrived in town for their yearly meeting at NCVC. Steve, walked to the site with one board member Sharon Lindbloom and came back to the center only for a short time left and did not return again during the entire two weeks.

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  22. So, Rob Sivulka says that he and his board don't endorse the disrespectful behavior that's demonstrated by the comments posted on his blog. He could end the disrespectful comments shown by Art Hagland, Peter, Wendy, and others by diligently searching for the truth and not allowing such remarks to be posted. He's attracted people who lack integrity and doesn't seem very concerned about his association with them. Truth can be found if a person earnestly seeks it; God, Himself, is truth, and He can be found. Rob is avoiding responsibility for undertaking such a search by stating that it is up to those reading the blog to determine for themselves what is true. No! This is tantamount to saying that people can believe whatever they want about Christ and come to a saving relationship with Him.

    Genuine leaders don't avoid responsibility for guiding people to an understanding of the truth! Rob is too cowardly to assume this level of responsibility. His indifference is very telling!

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    1. Rob, is good at not taking responsibility for his actions and twisting his words to appear innocence of any wrong doing.

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  23. Upon the advice of his pastor and board, Rob Sivulka has chose to edit or delete offensive comments from his blog while preserving the overall intent of those making the comments. This is most intriguing! The overall intent has been to maliciously slander the Hulses! The overall intent is evil! Once again, Rob takes the "easy way out!" He would like to look like he's cleaning up a real nightmare, and a real blot to his integrity as a human being, let alone a Christian! Eliminating evil takes much more than editing and deleting comments! Jesus died on the cross for evil! He did much more than edit and delete comments! Evil is only eliminated when people's hearts are transformed! Strange how a man who claims to understand the Gospel doesn't realize that!

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    1. Wow - this was a shocker. Rob, is taking the advice of his broad members and now his pastor to edit or delete other peoples comments. Why? He was egging them on non-stop on his Facebook page and on his CCU blog posting ever word including known lies.

      Rob, why did you not post the word for word voice message I left for you on July 9, 2013?

      Yet, you posted the word for word voice message of a former board member which trashed me. Why?

      Can we all say together "Rob, altars, edits and deletes everything that does shed a good light upon himself. It all started with this posted against us on Facebook and CCU's blog after the Capstone Conference in Salt Lake City, Utah at Calvary Chapel April 13th 2013.

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  24. Art Haglund's comments on the Courageous Christians blog are anything but courageous or Christian! It's disturbing that he would, as he put it, "make light" of anyone's military service, let alone, the service of Rocky Hulse, a man who diligently, faithfully served his country for 33 years!! It's also unsettling that he would need to be rebuked by outsiders to see this as wrong. He has shown himself as one who lacks appreciation for genuine warriors because he, himself, isn't one, and he has absolutely no understanding of a soldier's mindset! If he valued the service of those in the military, he would not have made light of Rocky's naval service.

    Those who have accomplished little will always try to devalue the achievements of those who strive for excellence! Mr. Haglund needs to focus on his own nominal record of service; records of accomplishment speak for themselves! Rocky's record of achievement in the navy and in ministry is strong and sound!! He doesn't need to tear others down to build himself up because his legacy of excellence speaks for itself!! He laid a firm foundation of integrity during his naval career and in ministry, and he and Helen have continued to build upon this in all of their endeavors!

    I stand with the Hulses in their ministry to fellow Christians and those in the LDS church. They are my sister and brother in Christ, and also treasured friends! I am blessed!

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  25. Original statement placed on Courageous Christians United (CCU) until January 28, 2013 -- It clearly shows the character of Rob Sivulka, he had no problem saying these things about the very person Steve Kliein who gave his 501c3 ministry (CCU) which he founded in 1977 to Rob Sivulka and Rob repays him by trashing his name.

    Does Rob Sivulka, know the meaning of friendship or character? Perhaps, Rob needs to look up these two definitions.

    1st Statement:

    We at Courageous Christians United (CCU) had no knowledge of the film “The Innocence of Muslims” or Steve Klein’s involvement in it until September 12, 2012. Steve was removed from the board of CCU as of September 14, 2012 because of his involvement in this film. As the founder of CCU, Steve was an honorary board member, but he has never been to any of our board meetings. In 2006, when I wanted to form my own non-profit corporation, Steve gave me CCU, which he was no longer using.

    Steve was in no way acting on behalf of our mission organization in the production of the video. While both Steve and the film maker have a right to express their views, that doesn’t mean that we here at CCU endorse this movie as a good means to convey the truth about Islam. In fact, we find this film reprehensible and irresponsible, and serving primarily to provoke a violent response.

    Rob Sivulka
    President, Courageous Christians United
    September 14, 2012

    2nd Statement replacing, above statement - Rob, says "Updated":

    We at Courageous Christians United (CCU) had no knowledge of the film "The Innocence of Muslims" or one of our board members’ involvement in it until September 12, 2012. This board member was subsequently removed from the board two days later due to his involvement in this film as well as his lack of communication with our board. He was in no way acting on behalf of our mission organization in the production of the video. We here at CCU do not endorse this movie as a good means to convey the truth about Islam.

    Rob Sivulka
    President, Courageous Christians United
    September 14, 2012
    Updated January 28, 2013

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  26. A question for Steve Dealy of the Nauvoo Christian Visitors' Center. If you can't keep the center open for more than 5 months of the year, how do you intend to staff a center and a theater? You aren't available to the people of Nauvoo. How will adding a theater to your center increase your sense of responsibility to the community? It won't!!! You are, once again, trying to build up yourself! Shamelessly delusional!

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    1. Steve Dealy, present and Richard Seedorf, former directors of the Nauvoo Christian Visitors Center have both posted untruths on Rob Silvulka's CCU blog about us.

      Thus, we will be posting the financial records and condition at the Nauvoo Christian Visitors Center when we left as directors in June 2008 along with what happen to the finances under their watches.

      Along with the fact that when we accepted the position as the directors the Nauvoo Christian Visitors Center, we told the board of directors, we would not continue as the directors until an outside audit was done.

      Why?

      We did not want our names, nor our ministry MMMO to be connected in anyway whatsoever with NCVC when we discovered after 17 years with one director it had a mailing list which had never been updated and was useless. The financial records were not updated yearly and NCVC had lost its non-profit status with the State of Illinois.

      to be continued....

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  27. Arthur Adam Haglund aka Art Haglund aka presidentin08 yet again on Rob Silvulka's CCU blog serving up " Whoopers" this one speaks below for itself.

    However, I would like to thank Art who lives in Mexico for showing his hypocritical behavior and unChirstian attitude.

    His hatred towards me (Helen) and my husband Rocky who did proudly serve 33 years on active duty in the Navy. Rocky was the 1st (one of one CIC enlisted)) to be promoted to CWO5 Warrant Officer, along with 16 other Navy men promoted by act of Congress to become CWO5 Officers in US Naval History. You not only owe my husband Rocky an apology, but all the Navy men who where promoted and made history in '03.

    Finally, Art don't you live in Mexico? Are you a citizen of Mexico? How do you support yourself? Where does your (not your wife) income come from? Might it be the US taxpayers?

    Arthur Haglund says...
    "Now that no one is feeding the dilusions of the liars, they must go back in time to attempt to revive old things, things that are not actually happening and are forever locked into the past
    "The Innocence of Muslims"
    LOL this is the cycle of Helen, if she is not receiving actual attention, she dredges up old things and tries to rekindle things long gone, so then she can, once again cry , "I AM A VICTIM!"" (10/21/13)

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    1. Art Haglund amazes me! Not in a good way, but in a sad, astounded way! He is criticizing Helen Hulse for dredging up past "sins," if you will, yet he's done nothing but dredge up erroneous, slanderous lies against the Hulses! Your hypocritical side is showing Art!
      Also, you can't spell, can't formulate a sentence, and you make juvenile comments! You have the mindset of a child! Read James, Art! When people become adults, God expects them to demonstrate adult thinking. You have tremendous difficulty with this, don't you Art!

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  28. The Nauvoo Christian Visitors Center (NCVC) has been closed all week. This is nothing new. In fact, it ties in very well with Steve Dealy's description of the NCVC on his Mission to Mormons website. The description contains a lie and the very reason for Steve's lack of involvement in the community at large. He states: "Today the Nauvoo Christian Visitors Center continues to carry out the original vision of its founders... The NCVC is a gospel lighthouse guiding people of all faiths and backgrounds who visit Nauvoo to the Cross of Jesus Christ."
    Did you catch the phrase "...who visit Nauvoo...?" Steve has reduced the NCVC to a tourism ministry that also functions as a prayer chain. The original vision of its founders-Watchman Fellowship and Personal Freedom Outreach, was that it would be a ministry to equip Christians to contend for the faith in the Nauvoo community! A building was purchased to act as a home for the center and a home for the director(s) because the director (s) was/were to live there year round to minister to Christians who live there!! Christians who live there, and develop relationships with LDS members need to know who to lead them to Christ!
    Steve is in no way continuing the original vision! He gave himself away when he posted that the emphasis is on visitors! He doesn't want to work more than 5 months a year, and reducing the NCVC ministry to a tourism outreach gives him an excuse to close the center once the summer is over!
    As for being a lighthouse, hardly! Lighthouses don't function only five months of the year! He isn't guiding anyone! Pity the ship that depends on Steve Dealy as a lighthouse!!! That ship is in trouble!

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  29. How do you measure genuine love? Do people who love you flatter you or do they tell you the truth? Helen and Rocky have told people the truth about the differences between genuine Christianity and LDS doctrine. There is no "common ground" between Christian and LDS beliefs. Ryan Selga's post is "right on!" People who are "truth tellers" may not always be appreciated. They may actually be hated and vilified; however, they will emerge triumphant because they stand for God, and He is Truth! He stands for them and with them, and they ultimately prevail!

    So, I stand with Helen and Rocky! I am proud and honored to call them friends!

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  30. I remember some of these names. Some had dubious theology in certain areas, not all areas, but some. Some I've never heard of before today. Some however seemed decent people and good Christians. It therefore saddens me and amazes me to see their names in connection to this.

    I also remember when this started back in early 2011. I had connections to both sides, being an admin on both Ephesians 2 and also on your own FB pages. I grew weary of it and it burned me out to the point of leaving Mormon missions, along with deleting and blocking some of them.

    Mocking, for example setting up imitation pages with similar names, has no basis in Christianity. If someone has an issue or a problem, they should set it out in a reasoned case.

    Being from the UK and not up to date with what has gone on entirely in the past couple of years, I cannot pass judgment either way. However, I have never had a problem with the Hulses or their work. I will happily support them the best I can - monetary, advice, theological advice, etc. - if they need it.

    I sometimes regret ever getting mixed up in the whole thing. But I look back and praise the Lord that I got out of it all.

    - John

    p.s. If their goal is to make money of books, they are going about it the wrong way completely ;-) I could show you some ministries and how to make mega bucks off books!!

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    1. Thank you, John for your honest opinion and comment.

      I am thankful that my Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ, can and did preserve His word for ever!

      Psalms 12:6-7 The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.

      And not only does He preserve His word, but also those who truly belong to Him. I am so thankful for that truth!

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  31. The Nauvoo Christian Visitors Center has a re-done Facebook page, and Steve Dealy has announced that he is starting over! He needn't have done that because Facebook NEVER took his page down! He unpublished it, and proof is available!
    When a person is banned on Facebook, he/she isn't able to post on his/her page, but the page stays up! I've been banned about three times, and my page wasn't removed. Steve likes to play the "victim" and claim that he is being persecuted/maligned on his page. This makes him appear to be doing something so special in Nauvoo that he's suffering for it! He's a seasoned liar who actually does little or nothing! As his Halloween photos show, he does like to decorate!! He's a great decorator who belongs in Macy's department store doing the windows rather than in ministry! He's much better suited for this type of work!
    The same thing applies to his comments about parking his car in the parking lot so that tourists on buses can see his mission to Mormons info. The center's garage is next to the public parking lot-it blends in with the public parking lot, and Steve's garage is full! He really can't park anywhere else but next to the garage! He enjoys giving the impression that he's making decisive ministry decisions when he's not! The center is closed, and he's hibernating, as usual! People in town know he's up to his usual inactivity! He also took down the photos of the Nauvoo Pageant; he posted so many of them that it seems he is deliberately trying to promote the LDS pageant-even when the script contains numerous lies and the pageant's purpose is to promote the LDS church and convert people. One really has to wonder about Steve! At best, he's confused! At worst, he's ineffective, lazy, and deceitful!

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  32. So, Steve Dealy of the Nauvoo Christian Visitors' Center had a visitor this week! How can that be when he's been closed?! Same type of driviel he usually puts on his Facebook page. Another emotional interaction with a visitor! Well, he's been somewhere-maybe "over the rainbow"- but he hasn't been keeping the center open!!
    Can it be? Has he told another lie?!

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    1. Proverbs 12:22 Lying lips are abomination to the Lord: but they that deal truly are his delight.

      Truth will come forth with it's full force and by God's Holy word, the Bible.

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  33. A word of warning from God's word to those who planned and plotted this attack:

    Proverbs 27:6 Faithful are the wounds of a friend; but the kisses of an
    enemy are deceitful.

    Galatians 4:16 Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?

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